10-05-2009, 03:40 PM
<!--quoteo(post=65406:date=Oct 5 2009, 02:33 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Oct 5 2009, 02:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=65401:date=Oct 5 2009, 02:26 PM:name=KBwsb)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KBwsb @ Oct 5 2009, 02:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Coldneck, if that's the case, I 100% agree with you. Fuck that with a stick.
There's even evidence that this is a trend; Joe Morgan, one of the few players alive who could be called a "peer" of Ryno, was the ultimate Moneyball player, yet is that ultimate anti-Moneyball curmudgeon now.
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I think Morgan (aside from being an idiot and a douchebag) just has a problem with who he perceives as "eggheads" who think they understand baseball. Not to simplify it, but I'm sure he was a douchebag jock type growing up all the way through high school and college who looked down on the "nerds." Now the nerds seem to think they understand the game that he excelled at -- maybe they understand it better than him. How the fuck can they understand this game -- they've never suited up and played in their lives -- much less at the elite level that I played at (that last sentence was the inside of Morgan's brain).
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I agree with you about Morgan.
But that is precisely why he'd be a poor manager. And if Ryno, (who also likely grew up as a jock-type, and then was lauded as a "superstar" throughout his adult life) thinks in the same linear manner, he will also be a poor MLB manager.
At least Lou is somewhat of a tactician.
I'm torn on the idea of Ryno as Cub skipper; on one hand, it'd sure be a feel-good story, for a franchise that needs one.
OTOH, has any superstar player EVER become a good manager? Ever? It seems like all the good ones were guys who had to scrap and claw to be any good (as players).
There's a sense of entitlement that comes with being a HOF player that doesn't seem to translate well to the everyday nitty-gritty of MLB managing.
There's even evidence that this is a trend; Joe Morgan, one of the few players alive who could be called a "peer" of Ryno, was the ultimate Moneyball player, yet is that ultimate anti-Moneyball curmudgeon now.
Another Dusty/Don Baylor type would kill me.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I think Morgan (aside from being an idiot and a douchebag) just has a problem with who he perceives as "eggheads" who think they understand baseball. Not to simplify it, but I'm sure he was a douchebag jock type growing up all the way through high school and college who looked down on the "nerds." Now the nerds seem to think they understand the game that he excelled at -- maybe they understand it better than him. How the fuck can they understand this game -- they've never suited up and played in their lives -- much less at the elite level that I played at (that last sentence was the inside of Morgan's brain).
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I agree with you about Morgan.
But that is precisely why he'd be a poor manager. And if Ryno, (who also likely grew up as a jock-type, and then was lauded as a "superstar" throughout his adult life) thinks in the same linear manner, he will also be a poor MLB manager.
At least Lou is somewhat of a tactician.
I'm torn on the idea of Ryno as Cub skipper; on one hand, it'd sure be a feel-good story, for a franchise that needs one.
OTOH, has any superstar player EVER become a good manager? Ever? It seems like all the good ones were guys who had to scrap and claw to be any good (as players).
There's a sense of entitlement that comes with being a HOF player that doesn't seem to translate well to the everyday nitty-gritty of MLB managing.
There's nothing better than to realize that the good things about youth don't end with youth itself. It's a matter of realizing that life can be renewed every day you get out of bed without baggage. It's tough to get there, but it's better than the dark thoughts. -Lance