10-02-2009, 01:41 PM
<!--quoteo(post=64966:date=Oct 2 2009, 10:03 AM:name=ColoradoCub)-->QUOTE (ColoradoCub @ Oct 2 2009, 10:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=64964:date=Oct 2 2009, 08:54 AM:name=1060Ivy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (1060Ivy @ Oct 2 2009, 08:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=64959:date=Oct 2 2009, 09:40 AM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Oct 2 2009, 09:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->stats are great, but they don't always tell the whole story.
if a player has a .750 ops, you think that he's not all that good. but if his average is .300 and his obp is .400, and he steals 50 bases and is caught 5 times, and he's good at taking extra bases, and scores 120 runs, and drives in 60, and is a good fielder, and a leader, and takes walks, and gives to charity, then isn't it safde to conclude that this player is good and that ops doesn't give you the full picture?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You used one stat to say the player sucked and then 5 other stats to prove that he's a stud.
Maybe the point is that you can't rely on an single stat to decide the value of a player?
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Exactly what I was thinking [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]
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wow, i thought i was crystal clear on this. i said that someone will throw out a .750 ops to prove someone sucks. yet there are other stats available to prove that said player doesn't suck at all. one stat doesn't always prove a point. you need to see more than that to get the whole story. i'm amazed that you and ivy and kb all completely missed my point.
if a player has a .750 ops, you think that he's not all that good. but if his average is .300 and his obp is .400, and he steals 50 bases and is caught 5 times, and he's good at taking extra bases, and scores 120 runs, and drives in 60, and is a good fielder, and a leader, and takes walks, and gives to charity, then isn't it safde to conclude that this player is good and that ops doesn't give you the full picture?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You used one stat to say the player sucked and then 5 other stats to prove that he's a stud.
Maybe the point is that you can't rely on an single stat to decide the value of a player?
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Exactly what I was thinking [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]
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wow, i thought i was crystal clear on this. i said that someone will throw out a .750 ops to prove someone sucks. yet there are other stats available to prove that said player doesn't suck at all. one stat doesn't always prove a point. you need to see more than that to get the whole story. i'm amazed that you and ivy and kb all completely missed my point.
Wang.