09-01-2009, 04:57 PM
<!--quoteo(post=60986:date=Sep 1 2009, 04:29 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Sep 1 2009, 04:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=60985:date=Sep 1 2009, 03:25 PM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Sep 1 2009, 03:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=60982:date=Sep 1 2009, 03:22 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Sep 1 2009, 03:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=60981:date=Sep 1 2009, 03:20 PM:name=Coldneck)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Coldneck @ Sep 1 2009, 03:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I would give these players there walking papers:
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I agree on Soriano.
Nyet on Bradley and Zambrano.
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Same here. Who would we replace Milton and Z with? Unless you have better options both internally or on the FA or trade markets, it makes little sense unless you plan on blowing up the team. There aren't a lot of great options out there.
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Exactly.
Now...if you want to blow up the team, I can probably get on board with that. But if that's the case, I want every piece gone from Ramirez to Z to Lee to Lilly to Soto -- all the way down the line. I want a pure youth movement. But if we're just getting rid of Zambrano, Soriano, and Milton with the expectation that we're still going to compete? Well...we aren't.
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I agree Butch. IMO, we're not competing with those guys either. My vote would be for a full blow up of this team. I think you have stated yours is similar. However, I don't think a Cubs team will ever do such a thing based on our market size. So the next best thing would be a partial blow up and replace the overpaid players (Z, Soriano, Milton) with other players that are paid to their ability. I would replace Soriano with Fox. I would replace Milton with either Holliday or Abreu or Jason Bay or Carl Crawford depending on the budget of the new owner. I would replace Z with Lackey or Randy Wolf.
Soriano
Bradley
Zambrano<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I agree on Soriano.
Nyet on Bradley and Zambrano.
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Same here. Who would we replace Milton and Z with? Unless you have better options both internally or on the FA or trade markets, it makes little sense unless you plan on blowing up the team. There aren't a lot of great options out there.
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Exactly.
Now...if you want to blow up the team, I can probably get on board with that. But if that's the case, I want every piece gone from Ramirez to Z to Lee to Lilly to Soto -- all the way down the line. I want a pure youth movement. But if we're just getting rid of Zambrano, Soriano, and Milton with the expectation that we're still going to compete? Well...we aren't.
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I agree Butch. IMO, we're not competing with those guys either. My vote would be for a full blow up of this team. I think you have stated yours is similar. However, I don't think a Cubs team will ever do such a thing based on our market size. So the next best thing would be a partial blow up and replace the overpaid players (Z, Soriano, Milton) with other players that are paid to their ability. I would replace Soriano with Fox. I would replace Milton with either Holliday or Abreu or Jason Bay or Carl Crawford depending on the budget of the new owner. I would replace Z with Lackey or Randy Wolf.