08-28-2009, 08:55 AM
<!--quoteo(post=60510:date=Aug 28 2009, 08:14 AM:name=veryzer)-->QUOTE (veryzer @ Aug 28 2009, 08:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->i echo everything straw just said and let me add this: given the volitile nature of bradley, are we to believe that he's hearing all these racial taunts and just taking it? this is a guy who once slammed a water bottle into the stands. i think that if people were really getting personal with him, he would have flown off the handle by now. this is a dude who thinks the umpires are out to get him, who was called a piece of shit by his own manager, who's been traded or let go by every team he's ever played for almost on a yearly basis. but people are making racist comments and he's just sucking it up? please.
i'm sorry, but the perceived racism just doesn't fly. he's getting booed on a daily basis and instead of admitting it's been because he's sucked and because of some of the things he's said, he's trying to say it's because he's black, just like hawkins and jones. play well, shut up, and none of this is an issue. trust me, if he was white, he'd be getting the same treatment. ask bob howry.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The problem with that is that you don't know that's the case. It's what you presume to be the case.
I fully acknowledge that I don't know it to definitively be the case that he's telling the truth. What I do know is that 6 different African Americans to wear a Cubs uniform in the last 7 years have said it's a problem. I'm not going to take the time to count, but if that's not a majority of the total number of African Americans to wear a Cubs uniform over that time, it's at least a significant minority.
I don't think it's the case that racial taunting begins the moment an African American player steps foot in Wrigley (with the apparent exception being Jacque Jones, who was treated mercilessly from his first game because people didn't like the fact that he'd been signed to begin with). And it's definitely true that any player that performs poorly gets treated harshly now at Wrigley. But the possibility of racial taunting and that harsh treatment are not mutually exclusive. Is it impossible that when it is an African American player who performs poorly, that racial taunting cannot become part of that same harsh treatment among a small but vocal minority?
i'm sorry, but the perceived racism just doesn't fly. he's getting booed on a daily basis and instead of admitting it's been because he's sucked and because of some of the things he's said, he's trying to say it's because he's black, just like hawkins and jones. play well, shut up, and none of this is an issue. trust me, if he was white, he'd be getting the same treatment. ask bob howry.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The problem with that is that you don't know that's the case. It's what you presume to be the case.
I fully acknowledge that I don't know it to definitively be the case that he's telling the truth. What I do know is that 6 different African Americans to wear a Cubs uniform in the last 7 years have said it's a problem. I'm not going to take the time to count, but if that's not a majority of the total number of African Americans to wear a Cubs uniform over that time, it's at least a significant minority.
I don't think it's the case that racial taunting begins the moment an African American player steps foot in Wrigley (with the apparent exception being Jacque Jones, who was treated mercilessly from his first game because people didn't like the fact that he'd been signed to begin with). And it's definitely true that any player that performs poorly gets treated harshly now at Wrigley. But the possibility of racial taunting and that harsh treatment are not mutually exclusive. Is it impossible that when it is an African American player who performs poorly, that racial taunting cannot become part of that same harsh treatment among a small but vocal minority?
This is not some silly theory that's unsupported and deserves being mocked by photos of Xena.