08-27-2009, 10:39 AM
<!--quoteo(post=60323:date=Aug 27 2009, 10:26 AM:name=rok)-->QUOTE (rok @ Aug 27 2009, 10:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=60321:date=Aug 27 2009, 09:19 AM:name=Scarey)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Scarey @ Aug 27 2009, 09:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I also wanted to add that I totally understand why you guys want to just brush this off. It's uncomfortable talking about racism especially if it has any sort of association with you personally. We just have to remember that it's not us being ignorant biggots. Just because there's assholes out there that root for the Cubs, that does not make us and them anything alike.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm honestly not trying to brush this off. I'm sure that there have been racist comments made in the stands on numerous occasions. Do our or other teams' African American players have the right to be deeply hurt and comment about such things when they occur? Damn right they do. I just have a problem with anyone who comes to this team, struggles, gets booed, then tries to deflect accountability away himself by bringing up race. The world can be an ugly place, and I don't excuse that, but you'd better be very careful when you start using the word racist and start implying (directly or indirectly) that an entire fanbase either shares in such racism or at the very least condones it or looks the other way. I just haven't seen it, and I won't waste my time defending such people. What do these players expect us to do about this? You can't hold the tongues of all the morons in the world.
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I think this is the root of why this gets swept under the rug. Not because it's a difficult thing to talk about (or, at least, that's not the lone reason), but because people think that if they acknowledge that it is happening, that they become guilty by association. Thus, the reaction becomes "I don't say things like that" therefore it doesn't happen.
I don't dispute for one second that this is a small number of people doing this. However, that doesn't mean it's not a real problem.
I'm honestly not trying to brush this off. I'm sure that there have been racist comments made in the stands on numerous occasions. Do our or other teams' African American players have the right to be deeply hurt and comment about such things when they occur? Damn right they do. I just have a problem with anyone who comes to this team, struggles, gets booed, then tries to deflect accountability away himself by bringing up race. The world can be an ugly place, and I don't excuse that, but you'd better be very careful when you start using the word racist and start implying (directly or indirectly) that an entire fanbase either shares in such racism or at the very least condones it or looks the other way. I just haven't seen it, and I won't waste my time defending such people. What do these players expect us to do about this? You can't hold the tongues of all the morons in the world.
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I think this is the root of why this gets swept under the rug. Not because it's a difficult thing to talk about (or, at least, that's not the lone reason), but because people think that if they acknowledge that it is happening, that they become guilty by association. Thus, the reaction becomes "I don't say things like that" therefore it doesn't happen.
I don't dispute for one second that this is a small number of people doing this. However, that doesn't mean it's not a real problem.
This is not some silly theory that's unsupported and deserves being mocked by photos of Xena. ![[Image: ITgoyeg.png]](http://i.imgur.com/ITgoyeg.png)