08-21-2009, 11:43 AM
<!--quoteo(post=59257:date=Aug 21 2009, 10:11 AM:name=BT)-->QUOTE (BT @ Aug 21 2009, 10:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->This conversation is getting surreal. You insistence that budgets are only spent on free agents is puzzling.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
That's not what I said. You really don't understand my point?
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->I'm really surprised you think the playing field is tilted in Williams favor in this discussion.
I don't think that, which is the main reason I never said that. You said you would like to see KW with Hendry's payroll. I've given you reams of examples showing you that he has had that opportunity. It's not tilted to Williams. It's pretty much even. Hendry might have a slight advantage, but the differences are minimal.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
To clarify then - I would like to see Williams with Hendry's ability to spend $ on FA.
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->If you had a choice as a GM between having the ability to go to the FA market and spend about 300mm on 7 FA/retainees of your choice, or the ability to spend much less, on guys willing to take shorter deals, and having to take on other team's rejects and their salary, which would you choose?
This is a totally loaded question. Teams are not put together solely by going out and signing free agents. And that example is CLEARLY not what has happened.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The Cubs have spent about 300mm in the recent few years on a small handful of big ticket FA.
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->The legitimate way to ask this question is if you were a GM and your owner gave you 115 million to spend to stock the team, and another owner gave his GM 120 to stock the team, would you think it's completely unfair?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Nobody said "completely unfair". And I disagree with your analogy - that the difference between their ability to spend is 4%. You are discounting a lot of things that go into this.
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->The point is, you have already received your wish. Kenny has had a similar budget to Hendry. You've seen the results.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
At this point - I'm going to back off. We aren't going to see eye to eye on this if you really think the Sox have had a similar amount of money to spend and the same amount of leverage to use it as the Cubs. No worries.
That's not what I said. You really don't understand my point?
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->I'm really surprised you think the playing field is tilted in Williams favor in this discussion.
I don't think that, which is the main reason I never said that. You said you would like to see KW with Hendry's payroll. I've given you reams of examples showing you that he has had that opportunity. It's not tilted to Williams. It's pretty much even. Hendry might have a slight advantage, but the differences are minimal.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
To clarify then - I would like to see Williams with Hendry's ability to spend $ on FA.
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->If you had a choice as a GM between having the ability to go to the FA market and spend about 300mm on 7 FA/retainees of your choice, or the ability to spend much less, on guys willing to take shorter deals, and having to take on other team's rejects and their salary, which would you choose?
This is a totally loaded question. Teams are not put together solely by going out and signing free agents. And that example is CLEARLY not what has happened.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The Cubs have spent about 300mm in the recent few years on a small handful of big ticket FA.
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->The legitimate way to ask this question is if you were a GM and your owner gave you 115 million to spend to stock the team, and another owner gave his GM 120 to stock the team, would you think it's completely unfair?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Nobody said "completely unfair". And I disagree with your analogy - that the difference between their ability to spend is 4%. You are discounting a lot of things that go into this.
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->The point is, you have already received your wish. Kenny has had a similar budget to Hendry. You've seen the results.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
At this point - I'm going to back off. We aren't going to see eye to eye on this if you really think the Sox have had a similar amount of money to spend and the same amount of leverage to use it as the Cubs. No worries.