08-21-2009, 11:11 AM
This conversation is getting surreal. You insistence that budgets are only spent on free agents is puzzling.
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->I'm really surprised you think the playing field is tilted in Williams favor in this discussion.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I don't think that, which is the main reason I never said that. You said you would like to see KW with Hendry's payroll. I've given you reams of examples showing you that he has had that opportunity. It's not tilted to Williams. It's pretty much even. Hendry might have a slight advantage, but the differences are minimal.
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->If you had a choice as a GM between having the ability to go to the FA market and spend about 300mm on 7 FA/retainees of your choice, or the ability to spend much less, on guys willing to take shorter deals, and having to take on other team's rejects and their salary, which would you choose?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
This is a totally loaded question. Teams are not put together solely by going out and signing free agents. And that example is CLEARLY not what has happened.
The legitimate way to ask this question is if you were a GM and your owner gave you 115 million to spend to stock the team, and another owner gave his GM 120 to stock the team, would you think it's completely unfair?
It doesn't matter if KW spent his 115 million by getting contracts half paid for by the Phillies, or by resigning Beurhle, Dye, Konerko, Contreras, Pierzynski, and Floyd, and spending the rest on Free agents like Dotel and Linebrink. He still spent 115 million. The fact that Hendry was spending his 120 million on free agents, and KW was spending his on resigning his own guys doesn't make any difference. They both had the same amount of money to spend. They both had roughly the same budget. They simply spent it in different ways.
The point is, you have already received your wish. Kenny has had a similar budget to Hendry. You've seen the results.
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->I'm really surprised you think the playing field is tilted in Williams favor in this discussion.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I don't think that, which is the main reason I never said that. You said you would like to see KW with Hendry's payroll. I've given you reams of examples showing you that he has had that opportunity. It's not tilted to Williams. It's pretty much even. Hendry might have a slight advantage, but the differences are minimal.
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->If you had a choice as a GM between having the ability to go to the FA market and spend about 300mm on 7 FA/retainees of your choice, or the ability to spend much less, on guys willing to take shorter deals, and having to take on other team's rejects and their salary, which would you choose?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
This is a totally loaded question. Teams are not put together solely by going out and signing free agents. And that example is CLEARLY not what has happened.
The legitimate way to ask this question is if you were a GM and your owner gave you 115 million to spend to stock the team, and another owner gave his GM 120 to stock the team, would you think it's completely unfair?
It doesn't matter if KW spent his 115 million by getting contracts half paid for by the Phillies, or by resigning Beurhle, Dye, Konerko, Contreras, Pierzynski, and Floyd, and spending the rest on Free agents like Dotel and Linebrink. He still spent 115 million. The fact that Hendry was spending his 120 million on free agents, and KW was spending his on resigning his own guys doesn't make any difference. They both had the same amount of money to spend. They both had roughly the same budget. They simply spent it in different ways.
The point is, you have already received your wish. Kenny has had a similar budget to Hendry. You've seen the results.
I wish that I believed in Fate. I wish I didn't sleep so late. I used to be carried in the arms of cheerleaders.