08-20-2009, 05:47 PM
<!--quoteo(post=58997:date=Aug 20 2009, 07:50 AM:name=ruby23)-->QUOTE (ruby23 @ Aug 20 2009, 07:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=58992:date=Aug 20 2009, 07:14 AM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Aug 20 2009, 07:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=58988:date=Aug 20 2009, 08:03 AM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Aug 20 2009, 08:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=58983:date=Aug 20 2009, 06:40 AM:name=Runnys)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Runnys @ Aug 20 2009, 06:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=58970:date=Aug 19 2009, 11:21 PM:name=vegascub)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vegascub @ Aug 19 2009, 11:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Cliff Lee took a no-hitter into the sixth for Philly. He's only 4-0 with a 0.82 ERA and two complete games since the trade. Wish we had a guy like that.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Starting pitching has been the least of the Cubs problems.
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Really? Every starting pitcher not named Randy Wells has been on the DL.
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Yeah, but even we had a Cliff Lee, we'd just lose his games 1-0. Or 2-1 when the bullpen blows it.
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Don't you think the deficienies of the bullpen can be attributed(atleast partially) to absolutely no stability in the rotation though also? I do, especially the middle and long relief roles.
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I guess what I was saying is that are starting pitching has performed well enough for this team to be doing much better than they are. However, the bullpen has been horrible. Plus, the middle and long relief roles haven't been near as big a problem as our late inning bullpen which wouldn't have changed if our starters were completely healthy. Lou was going to trot Marmol and Gregg out there everytime the situation warranted it.
Again, starting pitching is not a big problem, the complete lack of hitting aside from Lee and Ramirez is the problem.
Starting pitching has been the least of the Cubs problems.
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Really? Every starting pitcher not named Randy Wells has been on the DL.
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Yeah, but even we had a Cliff Lee, we'd just lose his games 1-0. Or 2-1 when the bullpen blows it.
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Don't you think the deficienies of the bullpen can be attributed(atleast partially) to absolutely no stability in the rotation though also? I do, especially the middle and long relief roles.
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I guess what I was saying is that are starting pitching has performed well enough for this team to be doing much better than they are. However, the bullpen has been horrible. Plus, the middle and long relief roles haven't been near as big a problem as our late inning bullpen which wouldn't have changed if our starters were completely healthy. Lou was going to trot Marmol and Gregg out there everytime the situation warranted it.
Again, starting pitching is not a big problem, the complete lack of hitting aside from Lee and Ramirez is the problem.