08-19-2009, 04:38 PM
<!--quoteo(post=58838:date=Aug 19 2009, 01:53 PM:name=jeffy)-->QUOTE (jeffy @ Aug 19 2009, 01:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=58826:date=Aug 19 2009, 01:32 PM:name=Coldneck)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Coldneck @ Aug 19 2009, 01:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=58822:date=Aug 19 2009, 02:25 PM:name=1060Ivy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (1060Ivy @ Aug 19 2009, 02:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=58820:date=Aug 19 2009, 01:06 PM:name=Coldneck)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Coldneck @ Aug 19 2009, 01:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->The following list make me want to vomit. The worst part is that our major commitments are not to any of the top tiered talent in the league. It will probably be a while until we contend again unless Ricketts throws money at the problem. We have more than twice the dollars committed in each year than any other Central division team.
Cubs Commitments compared to other NL Teams. (Central team bolded)
2010
<b>Cubs -- 122 M</b>
<b>Reds -- 60 M</b>
<b>Astros -- 54 M</b>
<b>Cardinals -- 50 M</b>
<b>Brewers -- 39 M</b>
<b>Pirates -- 23 M</b>
2011
<b>Cubs -- 96 M</b>
<b>Cardinals -- 44 M</b>
<b>Astros -- 37 M</b>
<b>Reds -- 28 M</b>
<b>Pirates -- 20 M</b>
<b>Brewers -- 7 M</b>
2012
<b>Cubs -- 54 M</b>
<b>Astros -- 21 M</b>
<b>Cardinals -- 14 M</b>
<b>Brewers -- 6 M</b>
<b>Pirates -- 4 M</b>
<b>Reds -- 3 M</b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
But what if you have twice the revenue base of most of the other teams in the NL Central?
Unless your an owner, the amount of money your team makes really doesn't matter unless it affects your ability to attract and pay for talent.
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If we had Pujols, Beltran, Johan, Haren, and Howard signed with that money I agree. but since we've spent it on much worse I disagree, VEHEMENTLY!
You fail to understand that I am not against spending money. I am against spending the way Jim Hendry has spent it.
And there is no way we have twice the revenue stream as the Cardinals now that they have a new ballpark.
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Coldneck is right. Sad, but true. Utterly depressing actually.
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The thing is... only two players really stick out as potential suck-asses over the duration of their contracts and that's Soriano and Dempster IMO.
Ramirez, Lee, Fukudome, Bradley, Zambrano, and Lilly are all worth at least most of what we're paying them. Fukudome may be paid too much for his production, but the Cubs had to outspend other teams at the time to get him. It was a risky venture and all-in-all it's not a terrible payout. On top of that, Fuku give the Cubs an opportunity to take some of the pie from the Asian market (although I don't have any idea how beneficial that is for them).
Cubs Commitments compared to other NL Teams. (Central team bolded)
2010
<b>Cubs -- 122 M</b>
<b>Reds -- 60 M</b>
<b>Astros -- 54 M</b>
<b>Cardinals -- 50 M</b>
<b>Brewers -- 39 M</b>
<b>Pirates -- 23 M</b>
2011
<b>Cubs -- 96 M</b>
<b>Cardinals -- 44 M</b>
<b>Astros -- 37 M</b>
<b>Reds -- 28 M</b>
<b>Pirates -- 20 M</b>
<b>Brewers -- 7 M</b>
2012
<b>Cubs -- 54 M</b>
<b>Astros -- 21 M</b>
<b>Cardinals -- 14 M</b>
<b>Brewers -- 6 M</b>
<b>Pirates -- 4 M</b>
<b>Reds -- 3 M</b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
But what if you have twice the revenue base of most of the other teams in the NL Central?
Unless your an owner, the amount of money your team makes really doesn't matter unless it affects your ability to attract and pay for talent.
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If we had Pujols, Beltran, Johan, Haren, and Howard signed with that money I agree. but since we've spent it on much worse I disagree, VEHEMENTLY!
You fail to understand that I am not against spending money. I am against spending the way Jim Hendry has spent it.
And there is no way we have twice the revenue stream as the Cardinals now that they have a new ballpark.
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Coldneck is right. Sad, but true. Utterly depressing actually.
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The thing is... only two players really stick out as potential suck-asses over the duration of their contracts and that's Soriano and Dempster IMO.
Ramirez, Lee, Fukudome, Bradley, Zambrano, and Lilly are all worth at least most of what we're paying them. Fukudome may be paid too much for his production, but the Cubs had to outspend other teams at the time to get him. It was a risky venture and all-in-all it's not a terrible payout. On top of that, Fuku give the Cubs an opportunity to take some of the pie from the Asian market (although I don't have any idea how beneficial that is for them).