08-09-2009, 08:33 PM
<!--quoteo(post=56701:date=Aug 9 2009, 06:24 PM:name=ruby23)-->QUOTE (ruby23 @ Aug 9 2009, 06:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=56700:date=Aug 9 2009, 07:20 PM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Aug 9 2009, 07:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=56699:date=Aug 9 2009, 06:01 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Aug 9 2009, 06:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=56698:date=Aug 9 2009, 06:51 PM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Aug 9 2009, 06:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=56696:date=Aug 9 2009, 05:41 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Aug 9 2009, 05:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I like Zambrano and all, but as long as this team needs to rely on him to be one of the top 2 pitchers on the staff, I don't see this team winning in the postseason. As a regular season staff, the Cubs have a good one. As far as a postseason rotations go, every team in the NL races sans the Rockies, has a better one.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The Dodgers don't.
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Billingsly and Kershaw are better than any 1-2 puch the Cubs have. Shit, Cook and Jimenez from the Rockies might even be too. You only need 2 pitchers in the playoffs, the Cubs don't have 2 clear cut choices to choose. Zambrano-Lilly, Lilly-Dempster, Zambrano-Harden, those combos aren't the type you win shit with.
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Billingsley has a 3.73 ERA and is currently hurt. Kershaw's been great, but is a 21-year-old pitcher, who knows how he'll do in the playoffs? The rest of their rotation is blah at best.
And again, Zambrano's been very good the last 2 years. It wasn't his fault we lost either game. We did jackshit against Arizona and the defense shit the bed for him against the Dodgers. If I remember correctly, at least 1 or 2 of those runs last year should've been unearned too.
Our rotation is plenty good enough to win in the playoffs. Scoring 6 runs in 3 games won't be.
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See, I don't see it that way at all. This rotation is plenty good enough to win in the regular season, they have the quality starts to show it. However, quality starts don't win playoff games, they get you 4-2 losses.
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The rotation lacks a clear #1, I don't disagree with that. But the Dodgers don't have one either. We have 3 pitchers with a better ERA in our rotation than Billingsley even, and he pitches half his games at a pitcher's park. He had an 8.49 ERA last year in the playoffs too. 10 runs to the Phillies in 5 2/3, 1 run in 6 innings to us(that sums up why we're losing).
And we have 5 pitchers that are all capable of kicking ass for a month stretch. I especially think Lilly will do much better if he gets another playoff chance and I want him going game 1 or 2, as he should've been last year.
The Dodgers don't.
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Billingsly and Kershaw are better than any 1-2 puch the Cubs have. Shit, Cook and Jimenez from the Rockies might even be too. You only need 2 pitchers in the playoffs, the Cubs don't have 2 clear cut choices to choose. Zambrano-Lilly, Lilly-Dempster, Zambrano-Harden, those combos aren't the type you win shit with.
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Billingsley has a 3.73 ERA and is currently hurt. Kershaw's been great, but is a 21-year-old pitcher, who knows how he'll do in the playoffs? The rest of their rotation is blah at best.
And again, Zambrano's been very good the last 2 years. It wasn't his fault we lost either game. We did jackshit against Arizona and the defense shit the bed for him against the Dodgers. If I remember correctly, at least 1 or 2 of those runs last year should've been unearned too.
Our rotation is plenty good enough to win in the playoffs. Scoring 6 runs in 3 games won't be.
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See, I don't see it that way at all. This rotation is plenty good enough to win in the regular season, they have the quality starts to show it. However, quality starts don't win playoff games, they get you 4-2 losses.
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The rotation lacks a clear #1, I don't disagree with that. But the Dodgers don't have one either. We have 3 pitchers with a better ERA in our rotation than Billingsley even, and he pitches half his games at a pitcher's park. He had an 8.49 ERA last year in the playoffs too. 10 runs to the Phillies in 5 2/3, 1 run in 6 innings to us(that sums up why we're losing).
And we have 5 pitchers that are all capable of kicking ass for a month stretch. I especially think Lilly will do much better if he gets another playoff chance and I want him going game 1 or 2, as he should've been last year.
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