Peavy Talk

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and for the record, i said that rbi are more important than a lot of you give credit for. i'm not saying its the most important stat.

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Derrek Lee hit 46 homers in 2005 and had only 107 RBIs.

Want to know why? He had fucking Neifi Perez and Corey Patterson hitting in front of him. If he had two guys that had OBP above .300 hitting in front of him, he would've had well over 120 RBI.

Obviously, sluggers and great hitters and going to get their numbers. But their RBI totals are going to fluctuate quite a bit depending on who is hitting in front of them.

It isn't really a difficult concept.
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And yet, you used this exact same instance to tell me that batting order does not matter.
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For total runs produced by a lineup, it doesn't. For individual RBI totals, it does (but that isn't what we were talking about).

Nice try, though.
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so you really think that Neifi and Patterson would have scored the same way daily or someone else in the lineup would replace their non-scoring? If you increase the production of one player (Lee) you have to reduce the production else where in the lineup if you expect the exact same results to occur. More runs would be score with better people in front of Lee.
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I read that three times and I'm still unsure what the question is.
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A = Batter 1
B = Batter 2
C = Batter 3
D = Batter 4

[A,B,C,D] = X runs

If you increase the production of any within [A,B,C,D] you would have to decrease the others within to system to maintain X amount of runs. If you don't decrease the others than X increases.