07-28-2009, 05:19 PM
<!--quoteo(post=52838:date=Jul 28 2009, 04:15 PM:name=Giff)-->QUOTE (Giff @ Jul 28 2009, 04:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=52822:date=Jul 28 2009, 03:33 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Jul 28 2009, 03:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=52821:date=Jul 28 2009, 03:26 PM:name=Giff)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Giff @ Jul 28 2009, 03:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Honest question Butch. Is a suicide squeeze ever the right move (and thus not a "retarded" move), in your mind?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Here are a few things that could make it a defensible decision:
- the bases aren't loaded
- the bases weren't just walked loaded (all three batters reached base via the walk) by the pitcher currently on the mound
- the current batter can't hit a fly ball with any degree of consistency (Cesar Izturis, Juan Pierre, etc.) -- those types of players are usually more adept at bunting because they are forced to
- your pitcher is at the plate and it's too early in the game to lift him for a pinch-hitter
- the batter isn't a LHB (a RHB would obscure the play from the catcher somewhat)
I could go on.
I'm not saying a squeeze play is *always* a bad decision. But it sure was last night.
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I'm not talking about last night's play, I'm talking about squeezes in general.
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->In my book, if there's a decision that has the highest probability of success, and you go with a different choice (even if the the probability of success is only *slightly* lower (which wasn't the case last night)), then it was a stupid decision.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Based off of this statement, I'm asking if a suicide squeeze is ever the correct play, in your eyes. It's not an argumentative question, I'm just curious how you look at it.
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Read the first portion of my answer again.
The situation in which it would be the *most* correct would be my 4th bullet point (your pitcher is at the plate and it's too early in the game to lift him for a pinch-hitter). It would be absolutely defensible in that situation.
Here are a few things that could make it a defensible decision:
- the bases aren't loaded
- the bases weren't just walked loaded (all three batters reached base via the walk) by the pitcher currently on the mound
- the current batter can't hit a fly ball with any degree of consistency (Cesar Izturis, Juan Pierre, etc.) -- those types of players are usually more adept at bunting because they are forced to
- your pitcher is at the plate and it's too early in the game to lift him for a pinch-hitter
- the batter isn't a LHB (a RHB would obscure the play from the catcher somewhat)
I could go on.
I'm not saying a squeeze play is *always* a bad decision. But it sure was last night.
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I'm not talking about last night's play, I'm talking about squeezes in general.
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->In my book, if there's a decision that has the highest probability of success, and you go with a different choice (even if the the probability of success is only *slightly* lower (which wasn't the case last night)), then it was a stupid decision.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Based off of this statement, I'm asking if a suicide squeeze is ever the correct play, in your eyes. It's not an argumentative question, I'm just curious how you look at it.
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Read the first portion of my answer again.
The situation in which it would be the *most* correct would be my 4th bullet point (your pitcher is at the plate and it's too early in the game to lift him for a pinch-hitter). It would be absolutely defensible in that situation.