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I saw the argument in the game thread....
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<!--quoteo(post=52755:date=Jul 28 2009, 01:16 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Jul 28 2009, 01:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=52754:date=Jul 28 2009, 01:14 PM:name=bz)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bz @ Jul 28 2009, 01:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=52751:date=Jul 28 2009, 01:11 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Jul 28 2009, 01:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=52749:date=Jul 28 2009, 01:06 PM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Jul 28 2009, 01:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=52745:date=Jul 28 2009, 01:00 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Jul 28 2009, 01:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=52742:date=Jul 28 2009, 12:57 PM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Jul 28 2009, 12:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=52714:date=Jul 28 2009, 11:59 AM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Jul 28 2009, 11:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=52713:date=Jul 28 2009, 11:51 AM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Jul 28 2009, 11:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Your job, as a manager, is to put your players in the best situation possible for a successful outcome to result. Lou did not even come close to doing that with Fontenot in the 9th last night. Having Blanco try to bunt, PHing with Fox, letting Fontenot swing away, sending Fontenot up there without a bat in his hand, etc., etc., etc. would have all been better choices than doing what he did. Sure, Fontenot should have been able to make contact on a bunt attempt, but he should have never been bunting in the first place since it was about the 15th best option at that point.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Boom.

ruby gets it, big time. In fact, ruby has been on fire for about two weeks straight.

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Bam! ruby doesn't get it just because you say he gets it.

it's entirely possible that neither of you get it. a suicide squeeze with the infield back in double play posisition is not a bad move, especially when the pitch is right down the middle. all he had to do was make contact. period. he could have conceivably popped the ball up and still had a successful squeeze due to the fact the infield was back and not expecting it.

was batting fox a good move? yes. was letting fontenot swing a good move? yes. was bunting blanco a good move? maybe, maybe not. was trying a suicide with fontenot a good move? yes. too bad font fucked it up.
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When you have other, better options at your disposal and you choose the least likely "good" option to succeed, that makes it a bad decision. Regardless of the outcome.

And ruby doesn't get it because I say he does. He gets it because he's right.
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no, you think ruby gets it because you think he's right. i don't think he's right, therefore bz gets it.

fastball down the middle. make contact, win the game, nobody argues. fontenot fucked up. it was his fault, not lou's.
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For the billionth time, the outcome of the play or what pitch Fontenot ultimately saw in that situation has no bearing on whether or not it was a wise move.
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So you've moved completely away from defending Fontenot's ability to bunt when it suits your argument best. Nice.

We wouldn't be talking about this right now if Fontenot executed. End of story.
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No. My argument hasn't changed. You're just being a dick now.

If he executed, we wouldn't be talking about this right now -- this is true. But it still would have been the wrong move.
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So if Fontenot executes and we win the game, it is still the wrong move...despite the fact that we won the game.
If Angelo had picked McClellin, I would have been expecting to hear by training camp that kid has stage 4 cancer, is actually 5'2" 142 lbs, is a chick who played in a 7 - 0 defensive scheme who only rotated in on downs which were 3 and 34 yds + so is not expecting to play a down in the NFL until the sex change is complete and she puts on another 100 lbs. + but this is Emery's first pick so he'll get a pass with a bit of questioning. - 1060Ivy
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I saw the argument in the game thread.... - by BT - 07-28-2009, 09:42 AM
I saw the argument in the game thread.... - by BT - 07-28-2009, 11:41 AM
I saw the argument in the game thread.... - by BT - 07-28-2009, 12:08 PM
I saw the argument in the game thread.... - by bz - 07-28-2009, 01:02 PM
I saw the argument in the game thread.... - by bz - 07-28-2009, 01:08 PM
I saw the argument in the game thread.... - by bz - 07-28-2009, 01:32 PM
I saw the argument in the game thread.... - by bz - 07-28-2009, 01:37 PM
I saw the argument in the game thread.... - by bz - 07-28-2009, 01:40 PM
I saw the argument in the game thread.... - by bz - 07-28-2009, 01:42 PM
I saw the argument in the game thread.... - by bz - 07-28-2009, 01:48 PM
I saw the argument in the game thread.... - by bz - 07-28-2009, 01:51 PM
I saw the argument in the game thread.... - by bz - 07-28-2009, 01:58 PM
I saw the argument in the game thread.... - by bz - 07-28-2009, 02:04 PM
I saw the argument in the game thread.... - by bz - 07-28-2009, 02:14 PM
I saw the argument in the game thread.... - by bz - 07-28-2009, 02:19 PM
I saw the argument in the game thread.... - by bz - 07-28-2009, 02:29 PM
I saw the argument in the game thread.... - by bz - 07-28-2009, 02:33 PM
I saw the argument in the game thread.... - by bz - 07-28-2009, 02:53 PM
I saw the argument in the game thread.... - by BT - 07-28-2009, 02:57 PM
I saw the argument in the game thread.... - by BT - 07-28-2009, 03:11 PM
I saw the argument in the game thread.... - by BT - 07-28-2009, 03:40 PM
I saw the argument in the game thread.... - by BT - 07-28-2009, 04:00 PM
I saw the argument in the game thread.... - by BT - 07-28-2009, 04:10 PM
I saw the argument in the game thread.... - by BT - 07-28-2009, 05:06 PM
I saw the argument in the game thread.... - by bz - 07-28-2009, 06:48 PM
I saw the argument in the game thread.... - by BT - 07-29-2009, 09:18 AM
I saw the argument in the game thread.... - by BT - 07-29-2009, 09:31 AM
I saw the argument in the game thread.... - by BT - 07-29-2009, 09:35 AM
I saw the argument in the game thread.... - by BT - 07-29-2009, 10:17 AM
I saw the argument in the game thread.... - by BT - 07-29-2009, 01:00 PM
I saw the argument in the game thread.... - by BT - 07-29-2009, 01:44 PM
I saw the argument in the game thread.... - by BT - 07-29-2009, 02:48 PM
I saw the argument in the game thread.... - by BT - 07-29-2009, 03:57 PM
I saw the argument in the game thread.... - by BT - 07-29-2009, 04:38 PM
I saw the argument in the game thread.... - by bz - 07-29-2009, 06:47 PM
I saw the argument in the game thread.... - by bz - 07-29-2009, 06:50 PM
I saw the argument in the game thread.... - by bz - 07-29-2009, 06:51 PM
I saw the argument in the game thread.... - by bz - 07-29-2009, 06:55 PM
I saw the argument in the game thread.... - by bz - 07-29-2009, 07:03 PM
I saw the argument in the game thread.... - by BT - 07-30-2009, 12:13 AM
I saw the argument in the game thread.... - by BT - 07-30-2009, 12:33 AM
I saw the argument in the game thread.... - by BT - 07-30-2009, 08:11 AM
I saw the argument in the game thread.... - by bz - 07-30-2009, 10:42 AM
I saw the argument in the game thread.... - by bz - 07-30-2009, 11:03 AM
I saw the argument in the game thread.... - by bz - 07-30-2009, 11:08 AM

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