07-04-2009, 12:58 AM
<!--quoteo(post=47945:date=Jul 3 2009, 09:05 PM:name=Kid)-->QUOTE (Kid @ Jul 3 2009, 09:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=47846:date=Jul 3 2009, 03:39 PM:name=Andy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Andy @ Jul 3 2009, 03:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I'm not a fan of "subjective".<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. By leaving it to the umpires, you can get some obviously bad discretionary determinations. But at the same time, are you going to make ejection mandatory in all cases? What about a situation where, after a warning, a pitcher accidentally hits a batter with a slow breaking ball when the bases are loaded and a run scores. Obviously no question it's not intentional, but that would still require a "subjective" determination by the umpire.
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Exactly. Unfortunately, some umpires actually look at it as an automatic ejection, which leads to a situation that happened a few years ago. The pitcher got his spikes caught in the dirt and fell over, and the ball floated and hit the batter. But the ump had already given warnings, so he ejected the pitcher. Obviously that's more extreme than today's case, but that's why it isn't supposed to be an automatic thing.
It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. By leaving it to the umpires, you can get some obviously bad discretionary determinations. But at the same time, are you going to make ejection mandatory in all cases? What about a situation where, after a warning, a pitcher accidentally hits a batter with a slow breaking ball when the bases are loaded and a run scores. Obviously no question it's not intentional, but that would still require a "subjective" determination by the umpire.
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Exactly. Unfortunately, some umpires actually look at it as an automatic ejection, which leads to a situation that happened a few years ago. The pitcher got his spikes caught in the dirt and fell over, and the ball floated and hit the batter. But the ump had already given warnings, so he ejected the pitcher. Obviously that's more extreme than today's case, but that's why it isn't supposed to be an automatic thing.
The thing you need to remember is that all Cardinals fans and all White Sox fans are very bad people. It's a fact that has been scientifically proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. Being a Cubs fan is the only path to rightousness and piousness. Cardinal and White Sox fans exist to be the dark, diabolical forces that oppose us. They are the yin to our yang, the Joker to our Batman, the demon to our angel, the insurgence to our freedom, the oil to our water, the club to our baby seal. Their happiness occurs only in direct conflict with everything that is pure and good in this world.
-Dirk
-Dirk