12-07-2008, 09:39 PM
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I'm not sure what you mean here.
I'm a firm believer in RBIs. I know RBIs are dependent on players getting on ahead, and also the baserunning ability of those players. But, I think RBIs usually will separate the players when compared. It's not a be all end all, but I think it's a good rule of thumb.
I think it's certainly a better measuring stick then HRs.
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Measuring stick for what?
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For how good a player is. I thought that was fairly obvious.
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The amount of contextualization necessary in determining how a person has acquired or not acquired RBIs makes the stat lose so much value. Not only does it matter how the person bats in terms of power, but it relies on those ahead of them in the lineup, the batters place within the lineup and the tendencies of the manager. It just relies way to much on context.
I'm not sure what you mean here.
I'm a firm believer in RBIs. I know RBIs are dependent on players getting on ahead, and also the baserunning ability of those players. But, I think RBIs usually will separate the players when compared. It's not a be all end all, but I think it's a good rule of thumb.
I think it's certainly a better measuring stick then HRs.
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Measuring stick for what?
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For how good a player is. I thought that was fairly obvious.
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The amount of contextualization necessary in determining how a person has acquired or not acquired RBIs makes the stat lose so much value. Not only does it matter how the person bats in terms of power, but it relies on those ahead of them in the lineup, the batters place within the lineup and the tendencies of the manager. It just relies way to much on context.
If Angelo had picked McClellin, I would have been expecting to hear by training camp that kid has stage 4 cancer, is actually 5'2" 142 lbs, is a chick who played in a 7 - 0 defensive scheme who only rotated in on downs which were 3 and 34 yds + so is not expecting to play a down in the NFL until the sex change is complete and she puts on another 100 lbs. + but this is Emery's first pick so he'll get a pass with a bit of questioning. - 1060Ivy