06-17-2009, 03:07 PM
<!--quoteo(post=44705:date=Jun 17 2009, 11:35 AM:name=vitaminB)-->QUOTE (vitaminB @ Jun 17 2009, 11:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=44699:date=Jun 17 2009, 02:28 PM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ Jun 17 2009, 02:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=44689:date=Jun 17 2009, 12:58 PM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Jun 17 2009, 12:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=44681:date=Jun 17 2009, 12:03 PM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ Jun 17 2009, 12:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <!--quotec-->Have you ever heard of the Red Sox or the Yankees trying to hide a Rule 25 guy on their roster? It's ridiculous.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Umm, yes?
In 2003, the Red Sox kept Lenny DiNardo on their team all year.
In 2004 the Red Sox kept Adam Stern on their roster for TWO years, as he got hurt in the first one. He was on the team for the required time, and was eventually traded to the Orioles in the Javy Lopez deal.
In 2007 the Yankees kept Josh Phelps on their team until June 17th (today's date I might add).
In 2009 the Red Sox took Miguel Gonzalez. He blew out his arm, but is still on the roster, and will have to play in 2010, or they will have to give him back.
I might also add that 2 years ago the blue jays took Randy Wells, and probably wished they had kept him.
The rule 5 draft is not the domain of just crappy teams. Hiding Patton is completely justifiable, unless his spot is costing us in some way. I can't see how it is.
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Well, when we had 13 pitchers on the 25 man for a week, I think he might have cost us some depth for a few games. I know that might be splitting hairs, but for a guy who has shown us absolutely nil thus far, it is still quite funny to me how he's being protected. What's the risk on losing this guy if he's looked upon as a 25th man at best? Or maybe others feel he has more potential than that, but it's hard to imagine that's the case.
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If they thought he was going to perpetually be a 25th man, they wouldn't be bothering with him. They think he can be more than that obviously.
And while you might be right about the depth thing, if Bobby Scales is your 24th man, are you really deep enough to matter? Even now, Fox has been called up, but Lou admits he will get almost no playing time. Whose spot was Patton taking away? What player isn't getting time that should be?
Bear in mind, the eruptions of pissing an moaning occurred because Hendry had the gall to cut Gaudin. Would we really be better off with his 6.16 ERA right now (actually it might be worse, since Gaudin is pitching in a much better pitchers park)?
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It amazes me that Fox has basically won the triple crown in AAA, hit like .450 in the majors this year and can't get any at bats.
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Where are we supposed to play him? He's a liability defensively. He has no position.
Umm, yes?
In 2003, the Red Sox kept Lenny DiNardo on their team all year.
In 2004 the Red Sox kept Adam Stern on their roster for TWO years, as he got hurt in the first one. He was on the team for the required time, and was eventually traded to the Orioles in the Javy Lopez deal.
In 2007 the Yankees kept Josh Phelps on their team until June 17th (today's date I might add).
In 2009 the Red Sox took Miguel Gonzalez. He blew out his arm, but is still on the roster, and will have to play in 2010, or they will have to give him back.
I might also add that 2 years ago the blue jays took Randy Wells, and probably wished they had kept him.
The rule 5 draft is not the domain of just crappy teams. Hiding Patton is completely justifiable, unless his spot is costing us in some way. I can't see how it is.
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Well, when we had 13 pitchers on the 25 man for a week, I think he might have cost us some depth for a few games. I know that might be splitting hairs, but for a guy who has shown us absolutely nil thus far, it is still quite funny to me how he's being protected. What's the risk on losing this guy if he's looked upon as a 25th man at best? Or maybe others feel he has more potential than that, but it's hard to imagine that's the case.
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If they thought he was going to perpetually be a 25th man, they wouldn't be bothering with him. They think he can be more than that obviously.
And while you might be right about the depth thing, if Bobby Scales is your 24th man, are you really deep enough to matter? Even now, Fox has been called up, but Lou admits he will get almost no playing time. Whose spot was Patton taking away? What player isn't getting time that should be?
Bear in mind, the eruptions of pissing an moaning occurred because Hendry had the gall to cut Gaudin. Would we really be better off with his 6.16 ERA right now (actually it might be worse, since Gaudin is pitching in a much better pitchers park)?
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It amazes me that Fox has basically won the triple crown in AAA, hit like .450 in the majors this year and can't get any at bats.
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Where are we supposed to play him? He's a liability defensively. He has no position.
I hate my pretentious sounding username too.