06-15-2009, 02:16 PM
<!--quoteo(post=44238:date=Jun 15 2009, 02:06 PM:name=Giff)-->QUOTE (Giff @ Jun 15 2009, 02:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=44224:date=Jun 15 2009, 12:12 PM:name=FlyAtTheThigh)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (FlyAtTheThigh @ Jun 15 2009, 12:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I'm about to feel dirtier than usual.
I find is odd/amusing that people used to love Ryan Theriot. Absolutely love him. And now, he is on pace to improve on every one of his counting stats from last year, save walks (hits, homeruns, doubles, triples...and yes, Ks, though that doesn't push my point) and actually finish the year as a statistically average hitter...and he's now a 'problem'.
Just because he's not hitting groundballs past second base anymore doesn't make him a problem now. I think quite the opposite.
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He's actually on pace for a couple fewer hits than last year, while on pace to strike out almost 50 more times than last season, and on pace to walk 24 times fewer. His OBP is 40 points lower than last season. That's supposed to be his game, he needs to get on base so the middle of the order can drive him in. If he was the player he was last year, Derrek Lee would have had someone to drive in over the last month and a half.
I suppose you could make an argument that what he's doing now is better. But the other side has a very good argument that he has digressed as a player, too.
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I was doing the paces in my head, so it's entirely possible (probable) that my numbers were off. Regardless, I'll take the power, especially on a team that is playing Bobby Scales or Mike Fontenot in a power position as well as Milton Bradley. This team isn't capable right now of driving in runs with three hit innings, I fear.
And yea, I know he's been worse recently, but that's the nature of the sport. One bad span does not a season make. It's possible he ends up hitting .250 this year. But then, it's possible that that's the player he has always been, not the .380 OBP guy from last year or the .440 slugger of this year. It is possible he's just not all that good, but taking the season on the whole this year, I have trouble lumping Theriot as an offensive problem.
I find is odd/amusing that people used to love Ryan Theriot. Absolutely love him. And now, he is on pace to improve on every one of his counting stats from last year, save walks (hits, homeruns, doubles, triples...and yes, Ks, though that doesn't push my point) and actually finish the year as a statistically average hitter...and he's now a 'problem'.
Just because he's not hitting groundballs past second base anymore doesn't make him a problem now. I think quite the opposite.
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He's actually on pace for a couple fewer hits than last year, while on pace to strike out almost 50 more times than last season, and on pace to walk 24 times fewer. His OBP is 40 points lower than last season. That's supposed to be his game, he needs to get on base so the middle of the order can drive him in. If he was the player he was last year, Derrek Lee would have had someone to drive in over the last month and a half.
I suppose you could make an argument that what he's doing now is better. But the other side has a very good argument that he has digressed as a player, too.
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I was doing the paces in my head, so it's entirely possible (probable) that my numbers were off. Regardless, I'll take the power, especially on a team that is playing Bobby Scales or Mike Fontenot in a power position as well as Milton Bradley. This team isn't capable right now of driving in runs with three hit innings, I fear.
And yea, I know he's been worse recently, but that's the nature of the sport. One bad span does not a season make. It's possible he ends up hitting .250 this year. But then, it's possible that that's the player he has always been, not the .380 OBP guy from last year or the .440 slugger of this year. It is possible he's just not all that good, but taking the season on the whole this year, I have trouble lumping Theriot as an offensive problem.