06-15-2009, 10:16 AM
<!--quoteo(post=44179:date=Jun 15 2009, 08:42 AM:name=vitaminB)-->QUOTE (vitaminB @ Jun 15 2009, 08:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=44167:date=Jun 15 2009, 12:18 AM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Jun 15 2009, 12:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->2/3 years Perry was here, our hitting was pretty mediocre. I'm not at all saying it was all on the hitting coach, but it tells you something about how this team is constructed. This organization can never seem to put a consistently good product on the field from year to year. One year the pitching is great, the next not so much. One season the offense is great, the next not so much. It doesn't help that from year to year we end up with 40-50% personnel turnover either, and it's asking a lot from the coaching staff to get results immediately with all these new faces around. I'm not sure what message this decision is going to send to the players, or if they're even receptive to any kind of shakeup or finger pointing. This team seems to be a lifeless bunch of excuse-makers, and if I hear another cliche about how it's still early, or that things always work themselves out, and water finds its own level, blah blah blah, well, maybe this just isn't our year. What ever happened to that sense of urgency to win now? It's like nobody gives a shit, but hey let's blame one man who never swings the bat when 12-13 grown men are underperforming. It's too easy.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
This organization has put a consistently good product on the field. I don't know what you expect, 14 straight NL Central titles. That's never going to happen again. I think winning back to back central titles is consistent enough for me.
We didn't have 40% personnel turnover. One everyday player was added and one was taken away. That's not the issue here.
And yes, if you're in charge of making sure guys hit, and they don't hit, you should lose your job. If I'm in charge of 12 salesmen and they don't make a fucking sale, I can't fire all of them. The boss is going to fire me.
Bottom line is we got career years out of almost everyone on the field last year. Those guys aren't hitting the same this year. Is that cause A-Ram's been out? Maybe. I don't know. Maybe it's just that guys like Theriot, FuK, and Font are what we thought they were.
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So what are you saying, that this is some sort of magic bullet? And I'm sorry, but have 2 winning seasons, 2 losing seasons, and 2 winning seasons with varying degrees of effectiveness by our offense year in and year out is not what I consider to be a consistent product. 14 straight titles? How about finishing .500 or better year in and year out. We've never done that in my lifetime. The pitching has been about the only thing that has been semi-reliable over the past 6+ years.
And career years from almost everyone last seasosn? Like who?
And I wasn't aware that we only replaced one player from last season.
This organization has put a consistently good product on the field. I don't know what you expect, 14 straight NL Central titles. That's never going to happen again. I think winning back to back central titles is consistent enough for me.
We didn't have 40% personnel turnover. One everyday player was added and one was taken away. That's not the issue here.
And yes, if you're in charge of making sure guys hit, and they don't hit, you should lose your job. If I'm in charge of 12 salesmen and they don't make a fucking sale, I can't fire all of them. The boss is going to fire me.
Bottom line is we got career years out of almost everyone on the field last year. Those guys aren't hitting the same this year. Is that cause A-Ram's been out? Maybe. I don't know. Maybe it's just that guys like Theriot, FuK, and Font are what we thought they were.
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So what are you saying, that this is some sort of magic bullet? And I'm sorry, but have 2 winning seasons, 2 losing seasons, and 2 winning seasons with varying degrees of effectiveness by our offense year in and year out is not what I consider to be a consistent product. 14 straight titles? How about finishing .500 or better year in and year out. We've never done that in my lifetime. The pitching has been about the only thing that has been semi-reliable over the past 6+ years.
And career years from almost everyone last seasosn? Like who?
And I wasn't aware that we only replaced one player from last season.