12-05-2008, 08:47 AM
<!--quoteo(post=1380:date=Dec 5 2008, 12:08 AM:name=Sandberg)-->QUOTE (Sandberg @ Dec 5 2008, 12:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=1342:date=Dec 4 2008, 09:02 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Dec 4 2008, 09:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=1315:date=Dec 4 2008, 07:00 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Dec 4 2008, 07:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=1253:date=Dec 4 2008, 01:18 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Dec 4 2008, 01:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=1208:date=Dec 4 2008, 08:46 AM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Dec 4 2008, 08:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->There's no doubt in my mind that teams simple decided he wasn't worth the headache at any price.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You're not that naive.
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So to be clear:
It's naive to believe that there is no way you could get 30 teams, completely self-interested and with a HUGE amount of money to be made if they win, with varying budgetary constraints, to artificially agree not to sign the best hitter of the last 10 years for pennies.
That's what you're saying?
Ok, I'm naive.
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You're talking about the same league that's been found guilty of collusion multiple times and has been fined 10's of millions of dollars for it. The same league that's been trying to do everything it can to distance itself from Bonds and steroids in general. So yeah, I think you're being more than a little naive.
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Ruby... gets it (??)
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Not this time. Unlike other examples of collusion where it is to drive down salaries across the board - and everyone wins - in this example, what's the upside for teams? Especially for teams that could get Barry for chump change? The answer is there isn't. So ruby's theory rests on the idea that all 30 teams would feel strong-armed enough by Selig, effectively, not to do what would be great for their team and cost them next to nothing.
I mean, what, you think Bud threatened to kick the team out of the league if they signed Barry?
Sorry. This example just doesn't fit.
You're not that naive.
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So to be clear:
It's naive to believe that there is no way you could get 30 teams, completely self-interested and with a HUGE amount of money to be made if they win, with varying budgetary constraints, to artificially agree not to sign the best hitter of the last 10 years for pennies.
That's what you're saying?
Ok, I'm naive.
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You're talking about the same league that's been found guilty of collusion multiple times and has been fined 10's of millions of dollars for it. The same league that's been trying to do everything it can to distance itself from Bonds and steroids in general. So yeah, I think you're being more than a little naive.
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Ruby... gets it (??)
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Not this time. Unlike other examples of collusion where it is to drive down salaries across the board - and everyone wins - in this example, what's the upside for teams? Especially for teams that could get Barry for chump change? The answer is there isn't. So ruby's theory rests on the idea that all 30 teams would feel strong-armed enough by Selig, effectively, not to do what would be great for their team and cost them next to nothing.
I mean, what, you think Bud threatened to kick the team out of the league if they signed Barry?
Sorry. This example just doesn't fit.
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