05-22-2009, 09:58 PM
<!--quoteo(post=39547:date=May 22 2009, 08:39 PM:name=KBwsb)-->QUOTE (KBwsb @ May 22 2009, 08:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=39544:date=May 22 2009, 08:34 PM:name=johnr42)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (johnr42 @ May 22 2009, 08:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->KB,
Have you ever thought it might not be that cut and dry? What if he IS doing that and still can't field worth a shit? Do you think he doesn't understand the financial implications of becoming a big leaguer? Is it possible that he simply can't learn to field? Is it possible that idea could enter your head? Learning is not something that can simply be defined universally. It's certainly possible it is something he can not learn. It also possible it is something he can't do well, and that is simply it. Do you not have things you really wish you could do well that you simply can't master? Think about it a little bit.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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I'm just wondering out loud. There are very few things in actual life that are as "cut and dried" as the Jake Fox situation, though. It's not complex. Indeed, it's as black and white as you can get.
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No KB, it isn't as cut and dry as you think. The guy played catcher his entire life until a few years ago and he played catcher pretty poorly at that. It has been said in numerous reports that he is a bad fielder, it was even said when he was drafted. He was drafted for his bat, not his glove. The hope was that he would become an average ML catcher, but that wasn't happening. So we tried moving him to different positions and it hasn't worked. Like John said, maybe he is just a bad fielder and that is it. I could take all the Yoga classes I wanted and take all the grounders I could and I guarantee I am not picking a grounder at third base off the bat of Pujols. You seem to think that fielding is easy...it isn't!
Have you ever thought it might not be that cut and dry? What if he IS doing that and still can't field worth a shit? Do you think he doesn't understand the financial implications of becoming a big leaguer? Is it possible that he simply can't learn to field? Is it possible that idea could enter your head? Learning is not something that can simply be defined universally. It's certainly possible it is something he can not learn. It also possible it is something he can't do well, and that is simply it. Do you not have things you really wish you could do well that you simply can't master? Think about it a little bit.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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I'm just wondering out loud. There are very few things in actual life that are as "cut and dried" as the Jake Fox situation, though. It's not complex. Indeed, it's as black and white as you can get.
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No KB, it isn't as cut and dry as you think. The guy played catcher his entire life until a few years ago and he played catcher pretty poorly at that. It has been said in numerous reports that he is a bad fielder, it was even said when he was drafted. He was drafted for his bat, not his glove. The hope was that he would become an average ML catcher, but that wasn't happening. So we tried moving him to different positions and it hasn't worked. Like John said, maybe he is just a bad fielder and that is it. I could take all the Yoga classes I wanted and take all the grounders I could and I guarantee I am not picking a grounder at third base off the bat of Pujols. You seem to think that fielding is easy...it isn't!