05-12-2009, 02:34 AM
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Overrated. All of those titles were when the team was loaded, and he had Mazzone. Since Furcal, Lopez, etc. left, he's done nothing with mediocre/good talent. A great manager would mold that team into a winner, he hasn't. Gardenhire is a perfect example of that, like Clapp mentioned.
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First, if you want to talk overrated, that would be Mazzone. It's not too hard to have a successful pitching staff when you have guys like Maddux, Smoltz, Glavine, Neagle, Schmidt, etc. He was still very good because he could get the most of out his guys, but not some magician like he used to be portrayed as.
As for Cox and what he did for that team, I remember year after year, everyone would say it was the year they wouldn't make the playoffs because they're talent was waning, but every year he made the most of his team and got the job done. I think he's one of the best managers of our generation.
Overrated. All of those titles were when the team was loaded, and he had Mazzone. Since Furcal, Lopez, etc. left, he's done nothing with mediocre/good talent. A great manager would mold that team into a winner, he hasn't. Gardenhire is a perfect example of that, like Clapp mentioned.
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First, if you want to talk overrated, that would be Mazzone. It's not too hard to have a successful pitching staff when you have guys like Maddux, Smoltz, Glavine, Neagle, Schmidt, etc. He was still very good because he could get the most of out his guys, but not some magician like he used to be portrayed as.
As for Cox and what he did for that team, I remember year after year, everyone would say it was the year they wouldn't make the playoffs because they're talent was waning, but every year he made the most of his team and got the job done. I think he's one of the best managers of our generation.
The thing you need to remember is that all Cardinals fans and all White Sox fans are very bad people. It's a fact that has been scientifically proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. Being a Cubs fan is the only path to rightousness and piousness. Cardinal and White Sox fans exist to be the dark, diabolical forces that oppose us. They are the yin to our yang, the Joker to our Batman, the demon to our angel, the insurgence to our freedom, the oil to our water, the club to our baby seal. Their happiness occurs only in direct conflict with everything that is pure and good in this world.
-Dirk
-Dirk