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Or it might be the fruits of Tim Wilken's labors finally surfacing.
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If so, good for him.
<b>On ESPN, they were just talking about the worst draft picks in recent history, and of course the Colvin pick led things off.</b>
Maybe Wilken's strength is in the lower rounds, were he can sniff out good, solid players where others can't.
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Worst picks in recent history? Most of these guys aren't going to amount to anything whatsoever, and that's the case for a ton of top 5 picks, Colvin was taken 13th overall. There's no way he's one of the worst draft picks in recent history in major league baseball. Luke Hochevar and Greg Reynolds going #1 and #2 in that draft sure looks a lot worse than Colvin going #13.
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The difference is Hochevar - if you could get him to sign - was a no brainer at number one at the time. If he flops, it's a shock.
Colvin, however, was a no brainer - in the third or fourth round. If you draft him there and he flops, no big deal. If you draft him thirteenth overall and he flops, that's a much worse pick than Hochevar at one.
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They're all significant gambles. The Cubs felt they saw something in him and took a chance. There's 5-10 guys every first round in MLB that are "2nd-5th round" guys that teams take. The scouts know a ton more about these players than the so called experts do, it's not basketball or football where you have a limited field of players to analyze.
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I don't disagree with that. I'm just saying Colvin at 13 that year was a much bigger gaffe than Hochevar at 1, no matter how badly Hochevar turns out.
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I made contact off Hochevar, which makes him worse.
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We've decided that if you can't beat them, join them theory of Cardinal baseball? [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif[/img]
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Or it might be the fruits of Tim Wilken's labors finally surfacing.
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If so, good for him.
<b>On ESPN, they were just talking about the worst draft picks in recent history, and of course the Colvin pick led things off.</b>
Maybe Wilken's strength is in the lower rounds, were he can sniff out good, solid players where others can't.
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Worst picks in recent history? Most of these guys aren't going to amount to anything whatsoever, and that's the case for a ton of top 5 picks, Colvin was taken 13th overall. There's no way he's one of the worst draft picks in recent history in major league baseball. Luke Hochevar and Greg Reynolds going #1 and #2 in that draft sure looks a lot worse than Colvin going #13.
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The difference is Hochevar - if you could get him to sign - was a no brainer at number one at the time. If he flops, it's a shock.
Colvin, however, was a no brainer - in the third or fourth round. If you draft him there and he flops, no big deal. If you draft him thirteenth overall and he flops, that's a much worse pick than Hochevar at one.
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They're all significant gambles. The Cubs felt they saw something in him and took a chance. There's 5-10 guys every first round in MLB that are "2nd-5th round" guys that teams take. The scouts know a ton more about these players than the so called experts do, it's not basketball or football where you have a limited field of players to analyze.
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I don't disagree with that. I'm just saying Colvin at 13 that year was a much bigger gaffe than Hochevar at 1, no matter how badly Hochevar turns out.
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I made contact off Hochevar, which makes him worse.
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