05-09-2009, 03:45 PM
<!--quoteo(post=36764:date=May 9 2009, 02:39 PM:name=Giff)-->QUOTE (Giff @ May 9 2009, 02:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=36750:date=May 9 2009, 01:12 PM:name=KBwsb)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KBwsb @ May 9 2009, 01:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->The thing that pisses me off are the people who are pretending to act astounded that Bradley and Aram <i>are actually getting hurt and missing games</i>! That, to me, was a clear <b>given</b>, long before the season began.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I dare you to name one person here who is "astounded" Bradley and Ramirez have gotten hurt.
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->And puh-leeeeeze stop with the total bullshit about "but he was our 2nd baseman."
No. He was a utility guy his entire time with the Cubs. The fact that he was the best utility guy in the majors was why we won 97 games.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Fine, let's break this down a little differently. Mark DeRosa started 80 games at 2B (out of 143 total he started for the season), Fontenot started 49, Cedeno 31, and Eric Patterson started 1. The Cubs wanted Mike Fontenot to be the starting second baseman for the 2009 season. Let's say, for the sake of days off and not starting against most lefties, that means he starts 135 games. So take his 49, give him Cedeno's 31 and Patterson's 1, which gets him to 81 starts. So that means he takes 54 starts from DeRosa, leaving him with 89 starts.
DeRosa also started 21 games in LF. Every single one (I went through and checked) of those 21 starts came while Soriano was on the DL. Since, before he was a Cub, Soriano had never been to the DL, there's no reason to assume he'd be headed to the DL. and Since DeRosa never started in LF while Soriano was on the active roster, it's pretty clear someone else would giving him days off. So let's just say Soriano stays healthy for the season. There goes most (if not all) of those 21 starts in LF (let's say we give him 5 starts out there). He also started 32 games in RF. With Fukudome and Bradley on the roster, it would be incredibly difficult to keep that number that high, so let's say 25 starts in RF for him. This leaves him with 66 starts.
All of the sudden, Lou and Hendry are telling a guy coming of a terrific three-year stretch, in the big contract year of his career, that he's going to lose over half his starts unless numerous guys get hurt? This is unreasonable and a poor use of resources, considering you can trade him to get pieces instead of just wasting him on the bench.
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Dude really, what planet are you from? Fuck getting pieces when we're trying to win a god damn World Series. I can give two shits about whatever crappy pitchers we got from DeRosa.
Bottom line, the team would have been better with DeRosa. And I don't believe that we couldn't afford him when we're wasting money on players we've cut.
I dare you to name one person here who is "astounded" Bradley and Ramirez have gotten hurt.
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->And puh-leeeeeze stop with the total bullshit about "but he was our 2nd baseman."
No. He was a utility guy his entire time with the Cubs. The fact that he was the best utility guy in the majors was why we won 97 games.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Fine, let's break this down a little differently. Mark DeRosa started 80 games at 2B (out of 143 total he started for the season), Fontenot started 49, Cedeno 31, and Eric Patterson started 1. The Cubs wanted Mike Fontenot to be the starting second baseman for the 2009 season. Let's say, for the sake of days off and not starting against most lefties, that means he starts 135 games. So take his 49, give him Cedeno's 31 and Patterson's 1, which gets him to 81 starts. So that means he takes 54 starts from DeRosa, leaving him with 89 starts.
DeRosa also started 21 games in LF. Every single one (I went through and checked) of those 21 starts came while Soriano was on the DL. Since, before he was a Cub, Soriano had never been to the DL, there's no reason to assume he'd be headed to the DL. and Since DeRosa never started in LF while Soriano was on the active roster, it's pretty clear someone else would giving him days off. So let's just say Soriano stays healthy for the season. There goes most (if not all) of those 21 starts in LF (let's say we give him 5 starts out there). He also started 32 games in RF. With Fukudome and Bradley on the roster, it would be incredibly difficult to keep that number that high, so let's say 25 starts in RF for him. This leaves him with 66 starts.
All of the sudden, Lou and Hendry are telling a guy coming of a terrific three-year stretch, in the big contract year of his career, that he's going to lose over half his starts unless numerous guys get hurt? This is unreasonable and a poor use of resources, considering you can trade him to get pieces instead of just wasting him on the bench.
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Dude really, what planet are you from? Fuck getting pieces when we're trying to win a god damn World Series. I can give two shits about whatever crappy pitchers we got from DeRosa.
Bottom line, the team would have been better with DeRosa. And I don't believe that we couldn't afford him when we're wasting money on players we've cut.
If Angelo had picked McClellin, I would have been expecting to hear by training camp that kid has stage 4 cancer, is actually 5'2" 142 lbs, is a chick who played in a 7 - 0 defensive scheme who only rotated in on downs which were 3 and 34 yds + so is not expecting to play a down in the NFL until the sex change is complete and she puts on another 100 lbs. + but this is Emery's first pick so he'll get a pass with a bit of questioning. - 1060Ivy