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Dunn vs. Bradley (so far)
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No they're not.
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Yeah, I'm not sure any of those teams are better than last year.
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I'm pretty sure of it.
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Well, you're wrong. List their opening day rosters from last year, then list their opening day rosters from this year, put them side by side, then tell me with a straight face that they are better. If you can do that, you'd make a hell of a poker player.

Every team in the NL Central got worse or stayed the about the same talent-wise(Cubs included), I find it impossible to think otherwise and in your heart, you know it too.
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I'm not expecting them to be better because of any changes to their roster -- as I mentioned before. I expect them to be better because the core of their talent; Votto, Bruce, Volquez, and Cueto are all 25 years old or younger. I'm expecting them to be better than they were last year. I also think Harang is going to bounce back (unless his arm falls off). Encarnacion and Phillips are both developing talents, too. The Reds could take a huge step forward this season.

So yes -- I expect them to be better. And there isn't a trace of a smile on my face as I type this.
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2008: Ken Griffey Jr., Adam Dunn (greatest player in the world, see your thread about 2 threads down), Jeff Keppinger, Ryan Freel, David Ross all on the opening day roster. This team is not better.
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Yeah?

Griffey Jr hasn't been good in quite some time (.245/.355/.432). Dunn is good. Keppinger? .266/.310/.346 Freel? He was OK. .298/.340/.359 (He's Theriot with less power). Ross? .231/.381/.366.

None of the guys you mentioned are going to be hard to replace and improve on (except for Dunn's OPS).
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When you replace them with Ryan Hanigan, Jerry Hairston Jr., Darnell McDonald, Lance Nix, and Willy Tavares . . . you're taking a huge step back, no matter how you slice it.
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Of the guys you just listed, only one of them is a starter (Tavares).
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Exactly, they lost a bunch of starters and replaced them in the starting lineup with inferior bench players, then replaced those bench players with even worse players. You're helping to prove my point.
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Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Butcher - 04-28-2009, 12:39 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by PcB - 04-28-2009, 12:41 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Fella - 04-28-2009, 12:43 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Butcher - 04-28-2009, 12:53 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by veryzer - 04-28-2009, 01:39 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Butcher - 04-28-2009, 01:42 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by veryzer - 04-28-2009, 01:52 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Butcher - 04-28-2009, 01:56 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by dk123 - 04-28-2009, 02:30 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Runnys - 04-28-2009, 02:32 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by ruby23 - 04-28-2009, 02:44 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by veryzer - 04-28-2009, 02:52 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by rok - 04-28-2009, 03:34 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Butcher - 04-28-2009, 03:51 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Clapp - 04-28-2009, 03:54 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Butcher - 04-28-2009, 04:03 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Clapp - 04-28-2009, 04:06 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Butcher - 04-28-2009, 04:16 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Clapp - 04-28-2009, 04:26 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Butcher - 04-28-2009, 04:28 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by SandbergMVP1984 - 04-28-2009, 04:39 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Runnys - 04-28-2009, 04:44 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by ColoradoCub - 04-28-2009, 04:52 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Butcher - 04-28-2009, 04:56 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by ruby23 - 04-28-2009, 05:00 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Clapp - 04-28-2009, 05:01 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Clapp - 04-28-2009, 05:01 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Butcher - 04-28-2009, 05:05 PM
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Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Clapp - 04-28-2009, 05:27 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by PcB - 04-28-2009, 05:30 PM
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Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Butcher - 04-28-2009, 05:41 PM
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Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Clapp - 04-28-2009, 06:16 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Butcher - 04-28-2009, 06:16 PM
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Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Butcher - 04-28-2009, 06:29 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Butcher - 04-28-2009, 06:32 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by ruby23 - 04-28-2009, 07:09 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Butcher - 04-28-2009, 08:48 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by ruby23 - 04-28-2009, 08:55 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Butcher - 04-28-2009, 09:02 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by ruby23 - 04-28-2009, 09:07 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Butcher - 04-28-2009, 09:11 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by ruby23 - 04-28-2009, 09:15 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Butcher - 04-28-2009, 09:26 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Kid - 04-28-2009, 09:32 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Lance - 04-28-2009, 09:35 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by ruby23 - 04-28-2009, 09:43 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Ace - 04-28-2009, 09:56 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Lance - 04-28-2009, 09:58 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by rok - 04-28-2009, 11:14 PM
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Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by ruby23 - 04-28-2009, 11:42 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by veryzer - 04-29-2009, 09:26 AM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Jody - 04-29-2009, 09:38 AM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Fly - 04-29-2009, 01:43 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by kbwsb - 04-29-2009, 05:08 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by ruby23 - 04-29-2009, 05:45 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by leonardsipes - 04-29-2009, 06:13 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by kbwsb - 04-29-2009, 06:16 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Butcher - 04-29-2009, 06:26 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by rok - 04-29-2009, 06:28 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by jeffy - 04-29-2009, 06:31 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by rok - 04-29-2009, 06:36 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Giff - 04-29-2009, 06:41 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by alpha - 04-29-2009, 06:43 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Clapp - 04-29-2009, 06:51 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Fly - 04-29-2009, 08:10 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Brock - 04-29-2009, 08:28 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Clapp - 04-29-2009, 08:40 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Lance - 04-29-2009, 11:23 PM
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Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Baron - 04-29-2009, 11:55 PM
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Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Fly - 04-30-2009, 10:17 AM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Fella - 04-30-2009, 10:24 AM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by rok - 04-30-2009, 10:36 AM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Runnys - 04-30-2009, 10:39 AM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Butcher - 04-30-2009, 11:01 AM
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Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Butcher - 04-30-2009, 11:13 AM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Coach - 04-30-2009, 11:13 AM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Fella - 04-30-2009, 11:30 AM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by veryzer - 04-30-2009, 11:36 AM
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Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by MrSheps - 04-30-2009, 03:04 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Ace - 04-30-2009, 05:53 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Mikey - 04-30-2009, 06:23 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by kbwsb - 04-30-2009, 09:04 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by PcB - 04-30-2009, 09:11 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by kbwsb - 04-30-2009, 09:12 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Butcher - 06-25-2009, 01:02 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by ColoradoCub - 06-25-2009, 01:03 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Butcher - 06-25-2009, 01:05 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by vitaminB - 06-25-2009, 01:20 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by Butcher - 06-25-2009, 01:23 PM
Dunn vs. Bradley (so far) - by CFOrfan - 06-25-2009, 01:26 PM
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