04-26-2009, 08:47 AM
<!--quoteo(post=33196:date=Apr 25 2009, 10:27 PM:name=Kid)-->QUOTE (Kid @ Apr 25 2009, 10:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33195:date=Apr 25 2009, 10:25 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 25 2009, 10:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33194:date=Apr 25 2009, 10:21 PM:name=Kid)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid @ Apr 25 2009, 10:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33192:date=Apr 25 2009, 10:14 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 25 2009, 10:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33188:date=Apr 25 2009, 09:59 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 25 2009, 09:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33184:date=Apr 25 2009, 08:48 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 25 2009, 08:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33183:date=Apr 25 2009, 09:47 PM:name=Kid)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid @ Apr 25 2009, 09:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->This is Jake Fox's 7th minor league season. He has appeared in 7 major league games. If that's not a career minor leaguer, I don't know what is.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Do you really think there aren't dozens of current Major Leaguers who spent 6+ seasons in the minor leagues? Because that's kind of the point you're making right there.
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7 years in the minors, after a college career, that went on to be good MLB players? I'd bet that number is extremely low.
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And by the way, it's currently 6 minor league years, not 7.
And if the question is find a starting-calibre major leaguer on a contender that spent the majority of 6 seasons in the minors after a college career... you don't have to look any further than both members of the starting middle infield for your very own team.
It happens.
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You're glossing over distinctions and you know it. This is Fox's 7th minor league season. If you're going to say it's been "6 years," then you can't say "well, it was 6 seasons for Theriot and Fontenot." That's being intellectually dishonest. Either it was 6 seasons for them & 7 seasons (and counting) for Fox or 5 years for them & 6 years (and counting) for Fox. Not 6 seasons for them & 6 years for Fox.
Second of all, it was in that 5th year/6th season that both became established major leaguers. That ship has sailed for Fox.
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Oh COME ON, dude. I bust out a ridiculous double-example that is right in all of our faces, and you're going to split hairs and say the ship has sailed on Fox because of ONE SEASON? Give me a break.
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Um yes. We're not talking about 100 years here. 1 year is a big difference.
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No, we're not talking about 100 years. What a bizarre and unnecessary exaggeration.
But we are talking about a total pre-MLB of almost 10. And we're talking about the entire population of MLB, and you are now indicating that a 10% difference in pre-MLB experience somehow *BOOM* magically makes a guy unable to become an adequate Major Leaguer. Be careful what star you hitch your wagon to, because in your effort to make your argument (one that I suspect you don't even passionately agree with - you're just good at making arguments), you're going down an absurd road.
I guess the Cubs should just release Fox now. I mean, once he crossed over from 6 years minor league experience to 7 years, he went from possible Major League starter a la Theriot and Fontenot, and instantly became a "career" minor leaguer who will never amount to squat.
Do you really think there aren't dozens of current Major Leaguers who spent 6+ seasons in the minor leagues? Because that's kind of the point you're making right there.
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7 years in the minors, after a college career, that went on to be good MLB players? I'd bet that number is extremely low.
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And by the way, it's currently 6 minor league years, not 7.
And if the question is find a starting-calibre major leaguer on a contender that spent the majority of 6 seasons in the minors after a college career... you don't have to look any further than both members of the starting middle infield for your very own team.
It happens.
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You're glossing over distinctions and you know it. This is Fox's 7th minor league season. If you're going to say it's been "6 years," then you can't say "well, it was 6 seasons for Theriot and Fontenot." That's being intellectually dishonest. Either it was 6 seasons for them & 7 seasons (and counting) for Fox or 5 years for them & 6 years (and counting) for Fox. Not 6 seasons for them & 6 years for Fox.
Second of all, it was in that 5th year/6th season that both became established major leaguers. That ship has sailed for Fox.
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Oh COME ON, dude. I bust out a ridiculous double-example that is right in all of our faces, and you're going to split hairs and say the ship has sailed on Fox because of ONE SEASON? Give me a break.
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Um yes. We're not talking about 100 years here. 1 year is a big difference.
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No, we're not talking about 100 years. What a bizarre and unnecessary exaggeration.
But we are talking about a total pre-MLB of almost 10. And we're talking about the entire population of MLB, and you are now indicating that a 10% difference in pre-MLB experience somehow *BOOM* magically makes a guy unable to become an adequate Major Leaguer. Be careful what star you hitch your wagon to, because in your effort to make your argument (one that I suspect you don't even passionately agree with - you're just good at making arguments), you're going down an absurd road.
I guess the Cubs should just release Fox now. I mean, once he crossed over from 6 years minor league experience to 7 years, he went from possible Major League starter a la Theriot and Fontenot, and instantly became a "career" minor leaguer who will never amount to squat.
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