04-15-2009, 06:01 PM
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->I think you guys are being unfair to ruby.
He didn't say "Chicago is a racist city. Think Selma, Alabama in the 1950's...that's Chicago."
He merely said that, as an outsider, he was a little startled by some of the things he saw and heard.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
He also implied, based on his experiences, that this article might not be as far off as we might think.
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->If anyone is going to say that they've never heard a single dude use the N-word in the Chicagoland area, ever, I'm going to automatically dismiss anything that person says, because it's patently absurd.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Nobody in this thread has said that. Several people have said that they haven't heard that word used <i>at Wrigley.</i>
Is the argument that there are idiotic racist morons inside the city limits of Chicago? Then yes, ruby is correct. There certainly are people like that. But I don't think that's what this discussion is about.
The problem is that articles like these paint with too wide of a brush. Not only that, but every idiotic Cards/Brewers/Sox fan that has a myopic view of who Cubs fans are feel justified in their beliefs when an article like this is published.
He didn't say "Chicago is a racist city. Think Selma, Alabama in the 1950's...that's Chicago."
He merely said that, as an outsider, he was a little startled by some of the things he saw and heard.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
He also implied, based on his experiences, that this article might not be as far off as we might think.
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->If anyone is going to say that they've never heard a single dude use the N-word in the Chicagoland area, ever, I'm going to automatically dismiss anything that person says, because it's patently absurd.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Nobody in this thread has said that. Several people have said that they haven't heard that word used <i>at Wrigley.</i>
Is the argument that there are idiotic racist morons inside the city limits of Chicago? Then yes, ruby is correct. There certainly are people like that. But I don't think that's what this discussion is about.
The problem is that articles like these paint with too wide of a brush. Not only that, but every idiotic Cards/Brewers/Sox fan that has a myopic view of who Cubs fans are feel justified in their beliefs when an article like this is published.