03-28-2009, 12:39 AM
<!--quoteo(post=25405:date=Mar 27 2009, 03:41 PM:name=Clapp)-->QUOTE (Clapp @ Mar 27 2009, 03:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=25378:date=Mar 27 2009, 12:06 PM:name=Destined)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Destined @ Mar 27 2009, 12:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=25359:date=Mar 27 2009, 07:38 AM:name=Coldneck)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Coldneck @ Mar 27 2009, 07:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Just saying, Dempster's deal appears to be way over market value. If Hendry would have waited he could have easliy saved enough on Dempster contract to retain DeRosa.
However, I really don't think the DeRosa deal was about money (even though Hendry said it was). I think Hendry wanted to get more LH and wanted to give Fontenot more ABs. He knew DeRosa's value was as high as it ever would be and liked the pitchers he was offered in return. I don't think Hendry wanted the conflict of sitting DeRosa more when Fontenot got the starts.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Was there any doubt that Dempster would leave? I never once lost sleep over it, which makes it frustrating why they blew money on him by not waiting, yet didn't wait for values to drop, like Abreu's for example(not saying he was Hendry's target, I'm just pointing out that money could have been saved).
As for DeRosa, I think Hendry was trying to sell-high for him on a career year, however I think he could have gotten more. The Indians basically got Casey Blake 2.0 for nothing so it gives the facade of salary dump, especially coinciding with Miles.
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If we hadn't made that offer, yes, I think he would've left. The Yankees offered more money and the talk was he was seriously interested. He took a bit less to stay with the Cubs, but if we offered him just like 5-7 million a year, he'd have signed elsewhere. How quickly people forget... that deal was a steal at the time. Nobody, and I Mean NOBODY knew the market would be this way. Hendry made keeping Demp his #1 priority and he made sure to get it done, and at a cheap price at the time.
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I was actually going to say much the same thing, only I was probably going to be much ruder about it. There was PLENTY of doubt that Dempster would be back. Furthermore, why don't you ask the Phillies if they got the message that everyone's salaries were going down this year, because my guess is that they would probably like to redo the Ibanez deal. I don't think the market trend was obvious to anyone.
However, I really don't think the DeRosa deal was about money (even though Hendry said it was). I think Hendry wanted to get more LH and wanted to give Fontenot more ABs. He knew DeRosa's value was as high as it ever would be and liked the pitchers he was offered in return. I don't think Hendry wanted the conflict of sitting DeRosa more when Fontenot got the starts.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Was there any doubt that Dempster would leave? I never once lost sleep over it, which makes it frustrating why they blew money on him by not waiting, yet didn't wait for values to drop, like Abreu's for example(not saying he was Hendry's target, I'm just pointing out that money could have been saved).
As for DeRosa, I think Hendry was trying to sell-high for him on a career year, however I think he could have gotten more. The Indians basically got Casey Blake 2.0 for nothing so it gives the facade of salary dump, especially coinciding with Miles.
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If we hadn't made that offer, yes, I think he would've left. The Yankees offered more money and the talk was he was seriously interested. He took a bit less to stay with the Cubs, but if we offered him just like 5-7 million a year, he'd have signed elsewhere. How quickly people forget... that deal was a steal at the time. Nobody, and I Mean NOBODY knew the market would be this way. Hendry made keeping Demp his #1 priority and he made sure to get it done, and at a cheap price at the time.
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I was actually going to say much the same thing, only I was probably going to be much ruder about it. There was PLENTY of doubt that Dempster would be back. Furthermore, why don't you ask the Phillies if they got the message that everyone's salaries were going down this year, because my guess is that they would probably like to redo the Ibanez deal. I don't think the market trend was obvious to anyone.
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