02-20-2009, 12:55 AM
<!--quoteo(post=19218:date=Feb 19 2009, 09:39 PM:name=ruby23)-->QUOTE (ruby23 @ Feb 19 2009, 09:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=19217:date=Feb 19 2009, 09:36 PM:name=Brock)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brock @ Feb 19 2009, 09:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=19215:date=Feb 19 2009, 09:30 PM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Feb 19 2009, 09:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=19213:date=Feb 19 2009, 08:19 PM:name=Brock)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brock @ Feb 19 2009, 08:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=19125:date=Feb 19 2009, 04:37 PM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Feb 19 2009, 04:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=19121:date=Feb 19 2009, 03:26 PM:name=Brock)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brock @ Feb 19 2009, 03:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <!--quotec-->So it's not true that there's players out there that are more valuable than their stats over a whole season indicate them to be?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well, with Miles we sure better hope that is true, because I certainly wouldn't want him to be LESS valuable than a career .693 OPS guy.
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->Miles can play just about anywhere<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Sure, but does he play any positions well? Versatility doesn't mean too much to me if he's below average defensively at most positions.
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->he'll play his ass off, take out guys on double plays, make contact consistently, etc. He'll do things each game to help us win each game that don't all show up in the box score.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
These are the things? I would hope he plays hard, just like I hope everyone on the team plays hard. Taking out guys on double plays? Ok. Making contact? Ok, but that shows up in the box score under the strikeout column.
I don't mean to come off like an ass, but I really don't see him as much of a player. Hopefully I'm wrong.
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Again, please throw away OPS, SLG, all that crap with this guy.
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Well that's just silly. But I'll stop now, carry on.
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Why? We have plenty enough power.
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Because you can't just disregard a guy's offensive output.
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I'm not a Miles fan, but for players that are tablesetter-type players, <b>OPS and SLG are not stats that need to be emphasized when evaluating them.</b>
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Well, On-base Percentage constitutes a full 50% of OPS, and On-base Percentage is the <b>ultimate</b> stat for "table-setters." So OPS is certainly an important stat for table-setters <i>and</i> sluggers alike, which is why it's become so widely used.
Well, with Miles we sure better hope that is true, because I certainly wouldn't want him to be LESS valuable than a career .693 OPS guy.
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Sure, but does he play any positions well? Versatility doesn't mean too much to me if he's below average defensively at most positions.
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->he'll play his ass off, take out guys on double plays, make contact consistently, etc. He'll do things each game to help us win each game that don't all show up in the box score.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
These are the things? I would hope he plays hard, just like I hope everyone on the team plays hard. Taking out guys on double plays? Ok. Making contact? Ok, but that shows up in the box score under the strikeout column.
I don't mean to come off like an ass, but I really don't see him as much of a player. Hopefully I'm wrong.
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Again, please throw away OPS, SLG, all that crap with this guy.
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Well that's just silly. But I'll stop now, carry on.
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Why? We have plenty enough power.
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Because you can't just disregard a guy's offensive output.
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I'm not a Miles fan, but for players that are tablesetter-type players, <b>OPS and SLG are not stats that need to be emphasized when evaluating them.</b>
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Well, On-base Percentage constitutes a full 50% of OPS, and On-base Percentage is the <b>ultimate</b> stat for "table-setters." So OPS is certainly an important stat for table-setters <i>and</i> sluggers alike, which is why it's become so widely used.
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