Pitchers And Catchers Report

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<!--quoteo(post=17707:date=Feb 12 2009, 08:32 PM:name=ruby23)-->QUOTE (ruby23 @ Feb 12 2009, 08:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=17706:date=Feb 12 2009, 07:28 PM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Feb 12 2009, 07:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=17696:date=Feb 12 2009, 05:50 PM:name=Fella)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Fella @ Feb 12 2009, 05:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Kb my friend, you gotta stop using ERA+ to value closers, they ALL have high ERA+s, they pitch one inning, their job is to not allow runs. You did the same thing while evaluating Gregg and Wood. ERA+ is a starting pitcher stat.

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I'm not saying it's not a win, it doesn't belong with those other deals.
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Neither does the DeRosa deal. All of the others involve stars, or guys that were looked at as stars. DeRosa is not a star, he's a utility player.
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Yup. DeRosa was a great player to have. But on a team with Aramis Ramirez, Alfonso Soriano, Milton Bradley, Geovany Soto, and Derrek Lee (and that's just on offense), he's not a star.