02-12-2009, 08:55 PM
<!--quoteo(post=17693:date=Feb 12 2009, 05:31 PM:name=KBwsb)-->QUOTE (KBwsb @ Feb 12 2009, 05:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->[img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif[/img]
I hope you know that I enjoy these tug-o-wars too, especially since you're very informed, a cool guy, and basically disagree with with me on everything.
When the Lidge trade was made, I believe I made a long post discussing my opinion that Ed Wade, the Astros new GM, had lapped the competition, and was now the worst GM in MLB. I was not alone in that thought. Lidge was coming of a year with a 131 ERA+, which is excellent. He had been outstanding in 4 of his 5 MLB seasons.
Michael Bourn is a good fielder, as you stated. However, he can't hit a baseball. At all. This tends to be a problem for ML outfielders, as per their "value." His career slash stats are .237/.299/.313
I'm not making those up.
Even if he were a Gold Glove SS, those stats would be hideous. For an OFer they're...uh...I don't know, really, <i>really</i> hideous?
Everyone knew he couldn't hit before the trade. Everyone knew Lidge was an elite pitcher. Everyone but you and Ed Wade, it seems. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I always loved Brad Lidge, he's from here. If Marmol doesn't have the best slider in the game, Lidge does. He even admitted to having confidence issues(and the battery throwing fans in Philly didn't seem like the best play to solve that) though and seemed like nothing more than a solid 7th/8th inning guy. Would you have traded Pie for Lidge? Bourn had already done more at the MLB Level than Pie has. They thought they were getting an ideal leadoff hitter that steals 60 bases, which he would've if he didn't shit the bed at the plate. I probably would'nt have done the trade, but it wasn't anywhere near the Victor Zambrano-Kazmir deals.
I hope you know that I enjoy these tug-o-wars too, especially since you're very informed, a cool guy, and basically disagree with with me on everything.
When the Lidge trade was made, I believe I made a long post discussing my opinion that Ed Wade, the Astros new GM, had lapped the competition, and was now the worst GM in MLB. I was not alone in that thought. Lidge was coming of a year with a 131 ERA+, which is excellent. He had been outstanding in 4 of his 5 MLB seasons.
Michael Bourn is a good fielder, as you stated. However, he can't hit a baseball. At all. This tends to be a problem for ML outfielders, as per their "value." His career slash stats are .237/.299/.313
I'm not making those up.
Even if he were a Gold Glove SS, those stats would be hideous. For an OFer they're...uh...I don't know, really, <i>really</i> hideous?
Everyone knew he couldn't hit before the trade. Everyone knew Lidge was an elite pitcher. Everyone but you and Ed Wade, it seems. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I always loved Brad Lidge, he's from here. If Marmol doesn't have the best slider in the game, Lidge does. He even admitted to having confidence issues(and the battery throwing fans in Philly didn't seem like the best play to solve that) though and seemed like nothing more than a solid 7th/8th inning guy. Would you have traded Pie for Lidge? Bourn had already done more at the MLB Level than Pie has. They thought they were getting an ideal leadoff hitter that steals 60 bases, which he would've if he didn't shit the bed at the plate. I probably would'nt have done the trade, but it wasn't anywhere near the Victor Zambrano-Kazmir deals.
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