02-12-2009, 06:58 PM
<!--quoteo(post=17661:date=Feb 12 2009, 04:56 PM:name=Clapp)-->QUOTE (Clapp @ Feb 12 2009, 04:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=17650:date=Feb 12 2009, 03:42 PM:name=KBwsb)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KBwsb @ Feb 12 2009, 03:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=17649:date=Feb 12 2009, 04:41 PM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Feb 12 2009, 04:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->He's never been better than Abreu defensively. I usually don't mean it, but I really don't care what the stats tell me on that this time. Dunn=worst every year in the outfield.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah, fuck the stats. And also, those personal observations of paid baseball experts who get paid to watch them and grade them <i>for a living</i>.
Those guys are assholes.
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I don't buy those stats. Do they count Dunn's steps, measure how long his strides are, count the exact amount of feet he ran to catch a ball? Do they include how he has a long Byron Leftwich wind in his throw with his huge body, making it take him longer to throw the ball than most outfielders? That he has crappy form and isn't good at fielding a groundball? There's so many things to fielding that stats won't ever tell you, especially in the outfield. You've gotta go with your eyes sometimes. With infielders the stats tell a better story. Much less ground to cover so we get a better idea of a play that Jose Reyes gets to that Ryan Theriot doesn't, and fielding percentage is a much bigger deal. Rarely is an outfielder going to drop a flyball.
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That's EXACTLY what they cover, because as Rok said, fielding stats are untrustworthy.
Yeah, fuck the stats. And also, those personal observations of paid baseball experts who get paid to watch them and grade them <i>for a living</i>.
Those guys are assholes.
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I don't buy those stats. Do they count Dunn's steps, measure how long his strides are, count the exact amount of feet he ran to catch a ball? Do they include how he has a long Byron Leftwich wind in his throw with his huge body, making it take him longer to throw the ball than most outfielders? That he has crappy form and isn't good at fielding a groundball? There's so many things to fielding that stats won't ever tell you, especially in the outfield. You've gotta go with your eyes sometimes. With infielders the stats tell a better story. Much less ground to cover so we get a better idea of a play that Jose Reyes gets to that Ryan Theriot doesn't, and fielding percentage is a much bigger deal. Rarely is an outfielder going to drop a flyball.
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That's EXACTLY what they cover, because as Rok said, fielding stats are untrustworthy.
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