01-29-2009, 02:19 PM
<!--quoteo(post=14657:date=Jan 29 2009, 11:09 AM:name=Fella)-->QUOTE (Fella @ Jan 29 2009, 11:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=14656:date=Jan 29 2009, 10:05 AM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ Jan 29 2009, 10:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=14651:date=Jan 29 2009, 10:56 AM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Jan 29 2009, 10:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=14649:date=Jan 29 2009, 10:53 AM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ Jan 29 2009, 10:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=14640:date=Jan 29 2009, 09:58 AM:name=Dirk)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dirk @ Jan 29 2009, 09:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=14588:date=Jan 29 2009, 01:01 AM:name=KBwsb)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KBwsb @ Jan 29 2009, 01:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->If Bradley stuns the world, and stays healthy enough to play 150 games, and if Aram and DLee both play 150 games, and if Fontenot kicks ass...yeah, then we won't miss DeRo that much. But that's a lot of ifs.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
And if Derosa, at age 34, regresses from a career best year then we might miss him a little less. That's not a very big if.
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As Dirk said, we are definitely going to miss the 2008 version of Mark DeRosa. It remains to be seen if the 2009 version of DeRosa will be AS missed.
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Is age 33 to age 34 some sort of magical transition? You could say this for any player, then. "Hendry fucked up when he signed Bradley because he paid for the 30 year old Bradley...but he'll turn 31 this year." It's just a weird line of thinking. Should we trade every player every year because they'll be a year older?
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You are completely twisting the idea of a career year. If DeRosa had spent the better part of the decade putting up 118+ OPS, then it would be asinine to suggest he will fall off the table when he turns 34. That's NOT what happened. What DID happen is between 32 and 33, he essentially upped his production by 20 percent. Has he established a new level? Possibly. Is it a slam dunk? Of course not.
The fact is, people would be doing a LOT less bitching if we traded a guy who hit 10 home runs instead of 20, and who had an OPS 67 points lower than last year. That is the year he had in 2007. Admirable, but not a "he is the MVP of the team" type of season. And MUCH closer to his career numbers than the ones he put up in 2008.
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Even if he is the 06-07 DeRosa its still a big drop off and we still gave him away for shit, simply to get left-handed. Had we traded him for something we could use, it would be easier to swallow, but we didn't, we got 3 mediocre prospects.
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Fella gets it.
And if Derosa, at age 34, regresses from a career best year then we might miss him a little less. That's not a very big if.
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As Dirk said, we are definitely going to miss the 2008 version of Mark DeRosa. It remains to be seen if the 2009 version of DeRosa will be AS missed.
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Is age 33 to age 34 some sort of magical transition? You could say this for any player, then. "Hendry fucked up when he signed Bradley because he paid for the 30 year old Bradley...but he'll turn 31 this year." It's just a weird line of thinking. Should we trade every player every year because they'll be a year older?
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You are completely twisting the idea of a career year. If DeRosa had spent the better part of the decade putting up 118+ OPS, then it would be asinine to suggest he will fall off the table when he turns 34. That's NOT what happened. What DID happen is between 32 and 33, he essentially upped his production by 20 percent. Has he established a new level? Possibly. Is it a slam dunk? Of course not.
The fact is, people would be doing a LOT less bitching if we traded a guy who hit 10 home runs instead of 20, and who had an OPS 67 points lower than last year. That is the year he had in 2007. Admirable, but not a "he is the MVP of the team" type of season. And MUCH closer to his career numbers than the ones he put up in 2008.
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Even if he is the 06-07 DeRosa its still a big drop off and we still gave him away for shit, simply to get left-handed. Had we traded him for something we could use, it would be easier to swallow, but we didn't, we got 3 mediocre prospects.
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Fella gets it.