01-21-2009, 07:27 PM
<!--quoteo(post=12883:date=Jan 21 2009, 06:22 PM:name=veryzer)-->QUOTE (veryzer @ Jan 21 2009, 06:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=12879:date=Jan 21 2009, 05:16 PM:name=bz)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bz @ Jan 21 2009, 05:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=12872:date=Jan 21 2009, 04:52 PM:name=Brock)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brock @ Jan 21 2009, 04:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=12853:date=Jan 21 2009, 03:57 PM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ Jan 21 2009, 03:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <!--quotec-->The pitching side of our system has admittedly approved the past few seasons, but what about position players? I don't see too many of those on your list and I'd ask for you to go back before Soto and give me some names if I thought such a task was possible.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
What kind of argument is that Brock? "The Cubs minor league system is no good. Eliminate all the good guys they drafted, and what are you left with?"
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Well if that's your exaggeration of my argument then yours would look something like "The Cubs minor league system is pretty good because we've developed some good pitchers. Let's just discount the fact that we can't develop position players entirely and just focus on the positives."
What's wrong with looking at the success of the system in its entirety? Why is it wrong to question why we can't ever seem to be able to develop position players?
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13 out of 22 1st round picks going back 15 years were for pitchers. Between 94 and 97 there were 4 consecutive picks for pitchers. Between 2001 and 2002 there were 5 consecutive picks for pitchers.
Up until the past couple seasons the Cubs have focused more on drafting pitchers then position players, hence why we haven't churned out quality position players as frequently as what you might perceive to be acceptable.
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so i agreed with bt and you agreed with me? sounds like a circle triangle.
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I think you all should get together and pull on tiny tom.
What kind of argument is that Brock? "The Cubs minor league system is no good. Eliminate all the good guys they drafted, and what are you left with?"
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Well if that's your exaggeration of my argument then yours would look something like "The Cubs minor league system is pretty good because we've developed some good pitchers. Let's just discount the fact that we can't develop position players entirely and just focus on the positives."
What's wrong with looking at the success of the system in its entirety? Why is it wrong to question why we can't ever seem to be able to develop position players?
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13 out of 22 1st round picks going back 15 years were for pitchers. Between 94 and 97 there were 4 consecutive picks for pitchers. Between 2001 and 2002 there were 5 consecutive picks for pitchers.
Up until the past couple seasons the Cubs have focused more on drafting pitchers then position players, hence why we haven't churned out quality position players as frequently as what you might perceive to be acceptable.
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so i agreed with bt and you agreed with me? sounds like a circle triangle.
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I think you all should get together and pull on tiny tom.
I'm 100% fine with this. I'm just glad there's an actual plan in place that isn't, "Let's load up on retreads and hope we get lucky." I'm a little tired of that plan.
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