01-21-2009, 01:59 AM
<!--quoteo(post=12707:date=Jan 20 2009, 11:07 PM:name=Giff)-->QUOTE (Giff @ Jan 20 2009, 11:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=12706:date=Jan 20 2009, 10:56 PM:name=Brock)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brock @ Jan 20 2009, 10:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=12702:date=Jan 20 2009, 10:31 PM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Jan 20 2009, 10:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=12701:date=Jan 20 2009, 09:14 PM:name=Brock)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brock @ Jan 20 2009, 09:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=12695:date=Jan 20 2009, 09:16 PM:name=Tailgater)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tailgater @ Jan 20 2009, 09:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=12683:date=Jan 20 2009, 08:35 PM:name=cherp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cherp @ Jan 20 2009, 08:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Back to Pie...
I'm surprised the Cubs would go with Gaithright over Pie. Can someone explain to me what Joey G brings to the table that Pie doesn't have the potential to do? Neither are great hitters - both are fast. Neither gets great reads, both cover ground. Neither have much power, both can hit the gap.
After investing so much in developing Pie, I'm surprised they gave up on him now - even moreso that they did it and put Joey G in his spot.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hitting the gap, pie, g-spot? I just couldn't read that post without giggling like a junior high girl.
Seriously though, I think Hendry did the right thing here. He learned from the Corey Patterson experiment. Even if Joey doesn't do much, it can't be worse than Pie.
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He learned to wait too long on a guy before selling? Oh wait.
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If Hendry would've traded Pie last year, everybody would've bitched at him for giving up on Pie way too early. I would've been fine with dealing him last year, but we had plans of the guy being the starting centerfielder and there was reason to believe he could still be good. The Cubs figured like most of us did that Pie would start to shorten his swing and make some adjustments, and he never did. Looking back, sure, would've been nice to get a better package in return for him but you can't blame Hendry for seeing what Pie could do. Our centerfielders coming into last season were him and Reed(who we signed in ST). Giving the 23-year-old with all the talent in the world a chance over some scrub CF in free agency looked like the right thing to do.
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You can spin it any way you want but at the end of the day another hyped Cub prospect fizzled out and was traded for scraps. Like I said before, just another failure of the Cubs minor league system, and if the GM of the organization is not to blame for that then who are we to blame?
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Well if you want to blame Hendry for Pie not developing that's fine I guess, but that isn't what you said.
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Well, that's oversimplifying it a bit, but yeah, I think Hendry, as the head of the organization, does have to shoulder the blame for the continued failure of our system.
As far as the trade goes - I don't think Pie's value could be any lower than it is right now, which is why I'm not a big fan of it (unless we get Peavy, which I still think is doubtful). He either needed to cut bait earlier when he still had some value or just hang onto him and hope he would have at least shown flashes in limited time this season to get some of his value back.
I'm surprised the Cubs would go with Gaithright over Pie. Can someone explain to me what Joey G brings to the table that Pie doesn't have the potential to do? Neither are great hitters - both are fast. Neither gets great reads, both cover ground. Neither have much power, both can hit the gap.
After investing so much in developing Pie, I'm surprised they gave up on him now - even moreso that they did it and put Joey G in his spot.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hitting the gap, pie, g-spot? I just couldn't read that post without giggling like a junior high girl.
Seriously though, I think Hendry did the right thing here. He learned from the Corey Patterson experiment. Even if Joey doesn't do much, it can't be worse than Pie.
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He learned to wait too long on a guy before selling? Oh wait.
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If Hendry would've traded Pie last year, everybody would've bitched at him for giving up on Pie way too early. I would've been fine with dealing him last year, but we had plans of the guy being the starting centerfielder and there was reason to believe he could still be good. The Cubs figured like most of us did that Pie would start to shorten his swing and make some adjustments, and he never did. Looking back, sure, would've been nice to get a better package in return for him but you can't blame Hendry for seeing what Pie could do. Our centerfielders coming into last season were him and Reed(who we signed in ST). Giving the 23-year-old with all the talent in the world a chance over some scrub CF in free agency looked like the right thing to do.
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You can spin it any way you want but at the end of the day another hyped Cub prospect fizzled out and was traded for scraps. Like I said before, just another failure of the Cubs minor league system, and if the GM of the organization is not to blame for that then who are we to blame?
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Well if you want to blame Hendry for Pie not developing that's fine I guess, but that isn't what you said.
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Well, that's oversimplifying it a bit, but yeah, I think Hendry, as the head of the organization, does have to shoulder the blame for the continued failure of our system.
As far as the trade goes - I don't think Pie's value could be any lower than it is right now, which is why I'm not a big fan of it (unless we get Peavy, which I still think is doubtful). He either needed to cut bait earlier when he still had some value or just hang onto him and hope he would have at least shown flashes in limited time this season to get some of his value back.