01-20-2009, 02:15 AM
<!--quoteo(post=12447:date=Jan 19 2009, 06:43 PM:name=Coldneck)-->QUOTE (Coldneck @ Jan 19 2009, 06:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=12444:date=Jan 19 2009, 06:18 PM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Jan 19 2009, 06:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=12427:date=Jan 19 2009, 03:32 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Jan 19 2009, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=12424:date=Jan 19 2009, 02:56 PM:name=Coldneck)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Coldneck @ Jan 19 2009, 02:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <!--quotec-->That would *really* suck. It would also ensure that only wealthy people and ticket brokers had season tickets.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I agree. This could actually decrease the cost of tickets on the secondary market if more fall into the hands of ticket scalpers.
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I disagree Rok. Inflation is caused by supply and demand. The curve already indicates that season tickets are vastly underpriced. The only people this will effect are season ticket holders. It shouldn't effect the price of tickets in the secondary market. I would argue that <i>most</i> families can't afford season tickets already. Most families will go to a handful of games (maybe just 1 or 2) during the season by purchasing single game tickets when they go on sale, or by purchasing them from the secondary market.
If anything, price on the secondary market will be driven downward because the ticket scalper supply will increase. I believe prices will remain the same though.
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Yeah, the scalper supply may increase, but they will be getting those tickets at a higher cost. A cost they'll pass on to the end user.
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That's what I'm talking about.
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But that's is totally against economic principal. The supply/demand curve will set the price. Supply is fixed, so the demand is what will determine the price of tickets. If scalpers increase their price it will decrease demand and they will be stuck with the tickets. The price will be determined by how much the consumer is willing to pay for the ticket. The face ticket price and personal seat license charges has little to do with secondary market for tickets. Furthermore, if the Cubs raised tickets prices to match demand they could cut the secondary market out altogether because there wouldn't be any profit for the scalpers.
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In a bubble and selling maize, you are correct.
I agree. This could actually decrease the cost of tickets on the secondary market if more fall into the hands of ticket scalpers.
<!--quoteo(post=12422:date=Jan 19 2009, 02:41 PM:name=rok)-->QUOTE (rok @ Jan 19 2009, 02:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->That's one of the most despicable ideas ever. I'm all for generating new types of revenue, but this creates instant price inflation and squeezes out a lot of families from ever going to games. It was getting bad enough already. Shit, I already don't go to the ballpark as much as I used to. If this keeps up, I may go just once a season.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I disagree Rok. Inflation is caused by supply and demand. The curve already indicates that season tickets are vastly underpriced. The only people this will effect are season ticket holders. It shouldn't effect the price of tickets in the secondary market. I would argue that <i>most</i> families can't afford season tickets already. Most families will go to a handful of games (maybe just 1 or 2) during the season by purchasing single game tickets when they go on sale, or by purchasing them from the secondary market.
If anything, price on the secondary market will be driven downward because the ticket scalper supply will increase. I believe prices will remain the same though.
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Yeah, the scalper supply may increase, but they will be getting those tickets at a higher cost. A cost they'll pass on to the end user.
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That's what I'm talking about.
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But that's is totally against economic principal. The supply/demand curve will set the price. Supply is fixed, so the demand is what will determine the price of tickets. If scalpers increase their price it will decrease demand and they will be stuck with the tickets. The price will be determined by how much the consumer is willing to pay for the ticket. The face ticket price and personal seat license charges has little to do with secondary market for tickets. Furthermore, if the Cubs raised tickets prices to match demand they could cut the secondary market out altogether because there wouldn't be any profit for the scalpers.
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In a bubble and selling maize, you are correct.
If Angelo had picked McClellin, I would have been expecting to hear by training camp that kid has stage 4 cancer, is actually 5'2" 142 lbs, is a chick who played in a 7 - 0 defensive scheme who only rotated in on downs which were 3 and 34 yds + so is not expecting to play a down in the NFL until the sex change is complete and she puts on another 100 lbs. + but this is Emery's first pick so he'll get a pass with a bit of questioning. - 1060Ivy