01-18-2009, 08:38 PM
<!--quoteo(post=12325:date=Jan 18 2009, 05:19 PM:name=Brock)-->QUOTE (Brock @ Jan 18 2009, 05:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=12322:date=Jan 18 2009, 05:41 PM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Jan 18 2009, 05:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=12319:date=Jan 18 2009, 04:33 PM:name=Brock)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brock @ Jan 18 2009, 04:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=12318:date=Jan 18 2009, 05:25 PM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Jan 18 2009, 05:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=12315:date=Jan 18 2009, 04:12 PM:name=Brock)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brock @ Jan 18 2009, 04:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=12313:date=Jan 18 2009, 04:53 PM:name=Fella)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Fella @ Jan 18 2009, 04:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->The Orioles are a team that's able to be patient with these guys and wait out the growing pains. The Cubs couldn't and with Pie out of options he had to go.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I see no reason why the Cubs could have not signed Gathright, let Pie stay on the bench for this season, and give him one more chance to see if he could figure it all out. Gathright doesn't do anything that Pie couldn't have done on our bench.
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I'd rather have Gathright personally. We're just talking about a PR guy and 2-3 times a month starter. Plus, how the hell would Pie get better that way? We have Fuk for a few more seasons, whether we like it or not, so Pie has nowhere to play.
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He couldn't really get any worse and have any lower value than he has right now. The possible (however unlikely it is) upside with Pie outweighs whatever Gathright is going to give us, which I don't think is going to be much at all.
This could be shaping up to be a pretty piss-poor bench, by the way, with Miles, Gathright, and Bako/Hill/whoever our backup catcher is.
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He's not going to get better riding the bench though which is what he would've done. All that would do is make him worse. If he could still go to Iowa, we wouldn't have dealt him.
As for the bench, it would've been worse with Pie on it. Miles is fine. A backup catcher is a backup catcher and they're not going to be used unless the rest of the bench has been anyway. We'll still have Hoffpauir, and maybe somebody like Aurilia. If it's really a problem come July which I don't expect it to be, Hendry will add another bat. We won't have Pie and Cedeno as a part of it like we did at times last year. I don't see how it could be worse, and Ward was crap last year.
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With all the times I've seen you say that Miles is fine, I should really believe it by now. Unfortunately I still think he's horseshit.
I guess I can buy what you say about Pie, but either way, like I alluded to before, Pie being a failure as a Cub again reflects poorly on the state of our minor league system, which reflects poorly on Hendry as a GM.
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I don't see how Miles is horseshit. We don't need 15 power hitters. We need a couple guys like him and Theriot that put the ball in play and do the little things, rather than all these hit or miss guys. That's been our problem the previous 2 postseasons, when our power hitters slump. You have to have other ways to create runs.
I see no reason why the Cubs could have not signed Gathright, let Pie stay on the bench for this season, and give him one more chance to see if he could figure it all out. Gathright doesn't do anything that Pie couldn't have done on our bench.
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I'd rather have Gathright personally. We're just talking about a PR guy and 2-3 times a month starter. Plus, how the hell would Pie get better that way? We have Fuk for a few more seasons, whether we like it or not, so Pie has nowhere to play.
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He couldn't really get any worse and have any lower value than he has right now. The possible (however unlikely it is) upside with Pie outweighs whatever Gathright is going to give us, which I don't think is going to be much at all.
This could be shaping up to be a pretty piss-poor bench, by the way, with Miles, Gathright, and Bako/Hill/whoever our backup catcher is.
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He's not going to get better riding the bench though which is what he would've done. All that would do is make him worse. If he could still go to Iowa, we wouldn't have dealt him.
As for the bench, it would've been worse with Pie on it. Miles is fine. A backup catcher is a backup catcher and they're not going to be used unless the rest of the bench has been anyway. We'll still have Hoffpauir, and maybe somebody like Aurilia. If it's really a problem come July which I don't expect it to be, Hendry will add another bat. We won't have Pie and Cedeno as a part of it like we did at times last year. I don't see how it could be worse, and Ward was crap last year.
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With all the times I've seen you say that Miles is fine, I should really believe it by now. Unfortunately I still think he's horseshit.
I guess I can buy what you say about Pie, but either way, like I alluded to before, Pie being a failure as a Cub again reflects poorly on the state of our minor league system, which reflects poorly on Hendry as a GM.
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I don't see how Miles is horseshit. We don't need 15 power hitters. We need a couple guys like him and Theriot that put the ball in play and do the little things, rather than all these hit or miss guys. That's been our problem the previous 2 postseasons, when our power hitters slump. You have to have other ways to create runs.
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