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<!--quoteo(post=11274:date=Jan 13 2009, 12:45 PM:name=veryzer)-->QUOTE (veryzer @ Jan 13 2009, 12:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=11232:date=Jan 13 2009, 10:58 AM:name=bz)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bz @ Jan 13 2009, 10:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=11231:date=Jan 13 2009, 10:55 AM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Jan 13 2009, 10:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=11229:date=Jan 13 2009, 10:52 AM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Jan 13 2009, 10:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=11227:date=Jan 13 2009, 10:50 AM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Jan 13 2009, 10:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=11225:date=Jan 13 2009, 10:43 AM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Jan 13 2009, 10:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=11223:date=Jan 13 2009, 10:42 AM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Jan 13 2009, 10:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=11218:date=Jan 13 2009, 10:34 AM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Jan 13 2009, 10:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=11211:date=Jan 13 2009, 10:27 AM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Jan 13 2009, 10:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Dale Murphy should be in (and I'm not saying that because he's a Mormon -- at least not entirely).
Look at his years from '80-'87. I think he was hurt in '81, but other than that year, he was an MVP candidate (and won the MVP twice) an All-Star, and a 4-time Silver Slugger.
I think Hawk and Murphy are both right on the border, but should eventually get in.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
'81 was the strike shortened year and i don't think he should get in. had he maintained his excellence for another 3 or 4 years then maybe.
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Oh yeah. I forgot about the strike year. My bust.
Murphy was one of the best players in the game for a solid 8 years in a row -- and was THE BEST player for 2 of those 8. He's in.
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he will never get in. he never comes close and he shouldn't. he isn't deserving and the writers agree. for once they're right. he's out.
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Well, we all have different opinions about what a Hall of Famer should be. Two-time MVP, 7-time All-Star, 4-time Silver Slugger, all with solid defense and a great ambassador for the game. That's a Hall-of-Famer in my book. Plus, in 5 of his non All-Star seasons, he averaged over 20 homers. So, 7 All-Star years, 2 MVP years, and 5 additional seasons with over 20 homers. Yeah...he's in.
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outside of those 5 years, he was average. he's out. history will back that up.
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So...7 amazing years, 5 good years, and the rest average and he's out? Wow. Based on that criteria, you want like 10 players, total, in the Hall of Fame. You're the white Joe Morgan.
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1/3 or his career was awesome. The other 2/3...not so much. I guy can't be in if they aren't amazing for a majority of their career.
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thank you bz. you are absolutely right. fortunately the bbwaa agree with us.
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Yes! How fortunate! Thank the heavens that the almighty BBWAA doesn't like Murphy! I mean...what the fuck would we do if Murphy got elected into the Hall of Fucking Fame? I mean...first that happens, next a group of SS troops show up at your doorstep and ass rape your entire family.
By the way, you can't use the BBWAA's opinion to support your argument sometimes and say that they suck all of the other times. "The BBWAA are the biggest bunch of morons for not letting in Santo all these years...but they're spot-on for not voting for Murphy." Sorry. You can't have it both ways.
Look at his years from '80-'87. I think he was hurt in '81, but other than that year, he was an MVP candidate (and won the MVP twice) an All-Star, and a 4-time Silver Slugger.
I think Hawk and Murphy are both right on the border, but should eventually get in.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
'81 was the strike shortened year and i don't think he should get in. had he maintained his excellence for another 3 or 4 years then maybe.
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Oh yeah. I forgot about the strike year. My bust.
Murphy was one of the best players in the game for a solid 8 years in a row -- and was THE BEST player for 2 of those 8. He's in.
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he will never get in. he never comes close and he shouldn't. he isn't deserving and the writers agree. for once they're right. he's out.
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Well, we all have different opinions about what a Hall of Famer should be. Two-time MVP, 7-time All-Star, 4-time Silver Slugger, all with solid defense and a great ambassador for the game. That's a Hall-of-Famer in my book. Plus, in 5 of his non All-Star seasons, he averaged over 20 homers. So, 7 All-Star years, 2 MVP years, and 5 additional seasons with over 20 homers. Yeah...he's in.
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outside of those 5 years, he was average. he's out. history will back that up.
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So...7 amazing years, 5 good years, and the rest average and he's out? Wow. Based on that criteria, you want like 10 players, total, in the Hall of Fame. You're the white Joe Morgan.
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1/3 or his career was awesome. The other 2/3...not so much. I guy can't be in if they aren't amazing for a majority of their career.
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thank you bz. you are absolutely right. fortunately the bbwaa agree with us.
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Yes! How fortunate! Thank the heavens that the almighty BBWAA doesn't like Murphy! I mean...what the fuck would we do if Murphy got elected into the Hall of Fucking Fame? I mean...first that happens, next a group of SS troops show up at your doorstep and ass rape your entire family.
By the way, you can't use the BBWAA's opinion to support your argument sometimes and say that they suck all of the other times. "The BBWAA are the biggest bunch of morons for not letting in Santo all these years...but they're spot-on for not voting for Murphy." Sorry. You can't have it both ways.