01-13-2009, 12:58 PM
<!--quoteo(post=11231:date=Jan 13 2009, 10:55 AM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Jan 13 2009, 10:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=11229:date=Jan 13 2009, 10:52 AM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Jan 13 2009, 10:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=11227:date=Jan 13 2009, 10:50 AM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Jan 13 2009, 10:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=11225:date=Jan 13 2009, 10:43 AM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Jan 13 2009, 10:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=11223:date=Jan 13 2009, 10:42 AM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Jan 13 2009, 10:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=11218:date=Jan 13 2009, 10:34 AM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Jan 13 2009, 10:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=11211:date=Jan 13 2009, 10:27 AM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Jan 13 2009, 10:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Dale Murphy should be in (and I'm not saying that because he's a Mormon -- at least not entirely).
Look at his years from '80-'87. I think he was hurt in '81, but other than that year, he was an MVP candidate (and won the MVP twice) an All-Star, and a 4-time Silver Slugger.
I think Hawk and Murphy are both right on the border, but should eventually get in.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
'81 was the strike shortened year and i don't think he should get in. had he maintained his excellence for another 3 or 4 years then maybe.
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Oh yeah. I forgot about the strike year. My bust.
Murphy was one of the best players in the game for a solid 8 years in a row -- and was THE BEST player for 2 of those 8. He's in.
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he will never get in. he never comes close and he shouldn't. he isn't deserving and the writers agree. for once they're right. he's out.
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Well, we all have different opinions about what a Hall of Famer should be. Two-time MVP, 7-time All-Star, 4-time Silver Slugger, all with solid defense and a great ambassador for the game. That's a Hall-of-Famer in my book. Plus, in 5 of his non All-Star seasons, he averaged over 20 homers. So, 7 All-Star years, 2 MVP years, and 5 additional seasons with over 20 homers. Yeah...he's in.
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outside of those 5 years, he was average. he's out. history will back that up.
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So...7 amazing years, 5 good years, and the rest average and he's out? Wow. Based on that criteria, you want like 10 players, total, in the Hall of Fame. You're the white Joe Morgan.
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1/3 or his career was awesome. The other 2/3...not so much. I guy can't be in if they aren't amazing for a majority of their career.
Look at his years from '80-'87. I think he was hurt in '81, but other than that year, he was an MVP candidate (and won the MVP twice) an All-Star, and a 4-time Silver Slugger.
I think Hawk and Murphy are both right on the border, but should eventually get in.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
'81 was the strike shortened year and i don't think he should get in. had he maintained his excellence for another 3 or 4 years then maybe.
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Oh yeah. I forgot about the strike year. My bust.
Murphy was one of the best players in the game for a solid 8 years in a row -- and was THE BEST player for 2 of those 8. He's in.
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he will never get in. he never comes close and he shouldn't. he isn't deserving and the writers agree. for once they're right. he's out.
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Well, we all have different opinions about what a Hall of Famer should be. Two-time MVP, 7-time All-Star, 4-time Silver Slugger, all with solid defense and a great ambassador for the game. That's a Hall-of-Famer in my book. Plus, in 5 of his non All-Star seasons, he averaged over 20 homers. So, 7 All-Star years, 2 MVP years, and 5 additional seasons with over 20 homers. Yeah...he's in.
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outside of those 5 years, he was average. he's out. history will back that up.
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So...7 amazing years, 5 good years, and the rest average and he's out? Wow. Based on that criteria, you want like 10 players, total, in the Hall of Fame. You're the white Joe Morgan.
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1/3 or his career was awesome. The other 2/3...not so much. I guy can't be in if they aren't amazing for a majority of their career.
If Angelo had picked McClellin, I would have been expecting to hear by training camp that kid has stage 4 cancer, is actually 5'2" 142 lbs, is a chick who played in a 7 - 0 defensive scheme who only rotated in on downs which were 3 and 34 yds + so is not expecting to play a down in the NFL until the sex change is complete and she puts on another 100 lbs. + but this is Emery's first pick so he'll get a pass with a bit of questioning. - 1060Ivy