01-02-2009, 11:05 PM
<!--quoteo(post=8454:date=Jan 2 2009, 08:58 PM:name=savant)-->QUOTE (savant @ Jan 2 2009, 08:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=8387:date=Jan 2 2009, 04:02 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Jan 2 2009, 04:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=8384:date=Jan 2 2009, 03:51 PM:name=ColoradoCub)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ColoradoCub @ Jan 2 2009, 03:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=8383:date=Jan 2 2009, 02:48 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Jan 2 2009, 02:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->To put it a different way...
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It sounds to me like at least one of those guys can contribute in our bullpen, and last I checked, our bullpen was pretty thin. If we hardly have money to sign Bradley where was the money to fill holes in the bullpen going to come from?
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We have plenty on our roster to fill out our bullpen already. Our bullpen was solid last year and we're better off without Howry (especially since Lou won't feel whatever weird obligation he had to pitch him every other game anymore). Gregg is a slight downgrade from Wood.
You fill it out with Gregg, Shark, Marshall, Wuertz, Marmol, Cotts, Gaudin, Guzman and maybe some other guys who audition for a bullpen spot in Spring Training. That's plenty of arms to fill out a decent bullpen. We didn't need to trade one of our most valuable players (on both sides of the field) to get a guy who *might* contribute to our bullpen. Also, Bradley is going to play in about 120 games. Wouldn't you feel a whole lot better with DeRosa as his replacement? Or are you OK with Miles playing 40+ games in RF?
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We are going to lose a lot of the people on that list when the Peavy trade goes down. The olympic guy is as good as gone in that trade as well. San Diego has to put together a team on a $40 million budget, these major league ready arms making at or near league minimum are going to be at a premium for them. Marshall, Olsen(Pie is as good as gone when Gathright signed), Mr. Olympic, Wuertz, and Guzman are all going to be gone. Just remeber we are talking about having a budget crunch with a $140 million payroll, SD has to find 25 major leaguers for $100 million less. It also sounds like the Cubs really like the righthander from A ball, so system depth is something to look at here as well.
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Yeah I could definitely see that. Like you said and I said earlier, just because we got these prospects from Cleveland doesn't at all mean these are the guys we'd be sending to San Diego. The olympic guy makes sense for the reasons guy said, but we might hang on to 2 of them for example to replace arms we'll be trading away. One thing that always drives me nuts is the "They don't have the prospects to make a deal" nonsense. Every team has the prospects, it's just a matter of who and how many they're willing to trade. The team trading these prospects away has to have players to replace them, and you'd prefer they were capable players rather than just trash.
DeRosa + Bradley > Miles + Bradley + 3 shit prospects<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It sounds to me like at least one of those guys can contribute in our bullpen, and last I checked, our bullpen was pretty thin. If we hardly have money to sign Bradley where was the money to fill holes in the bullpen going to come from?
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We have plenty on our roster to fill out our bullpen already. Our bullpen was solid last year and we're better off without Howry (especially since Lou won't feel whatever weird obligation he had to pitch him every other game anymore). Gregg is a slight downgrade from Wood.
You fill it out with Gregg, Shark, Marshall, Wuertz, Marmol, Cotts, Gaudin, Guzman and maybe some other guys who audition for a bullpen spot in Spring Training. That's plenty of arms to fill out a decent bullpen. We didn't need to trade one of our most valuable players (on both sides of the field) to get a guy who *might* contribute to our bullpen. Also, Bradley is going to play in about 120 games. Wouldn't you feel a whole lot better with DeRosa as his replacement? Or are you OK with Miles playing 40+ games in RF?
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We are going to lose a lot of the people on that list when the Peavy trade goes down. The olympic guy is as good as gone in that trade as well. San Diego has to put together a team on a $40 million budget, these major league ready arms making at or near league minimum are going to be at a premium for them. Marshall, Olsen(Pie is as good as gone when Gathright signed), Mr. Olympic, Wuertz, and Guzman are all going to be gone. Just remeber we are talking about having a budget crunch with a $140 million payroll, SD has to find 25 major leaguers for $100 million less. It also sounds like the Cubs really like the righthander from A ball, so system depth is something to look at here as well.
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Yeah I could definitely see that. Like you said and I said earlier, just because we got these prospects from Cleveland doesn't at all mean these are the guys we'd be sending to San Diego. The olympic guy makes sense for the reasons guy said, but we might hang on to 2 of them for example to replace arms we'll be trading away. One thing that always drives me nuts is the "They don't have the prospects to make a deal" nonsense. Every team has the prospects, it's just a matter of who and how many they're willing to trade. The team trading these prospects away has to have players to replace them, and you'd prefer they were capable players rather than just trash.
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