12-14-2010, 07:04 PM
<!--quoteo(post=123368:date=Dec 14 2010, 04:30 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Dec 14 2010, 04:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=123365:date=Dec 14 2010, 04:21 PM:name=Bricklayer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bricklayer @ Dec 14 2010, 04:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=123347:date=Dec 14 2010, 02:52 PM:name=willis)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (willis @ Dec 14 2010, 02:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=123346:date=Dec 14 2010, 02:40 PM:name=vitaminB)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vitaminB @ Dec 14 2010, 02:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=123343:date=Dec 14 2010, 03:29 PM:name=willis)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (willis @ Dec 14 2010, 03:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->The team could have traded for Gonzalez. The pieces are there and he isn't making dick this year. In fact, the cubs will be paying (I know deferred) Pena more money than it would have cost for Gonzalez. So I don't consider that too bold to pull off. Bold-absolutely. Awesome-yes. But they could have done it. The problem is that this team is afraid to pull the trigger because Hendry has Ricketts convinced a tinker here and a tinker there gets it done. The real is they are going to run out a bunch of overpaid vets detined to finish behind a medium market team and 4 small market teams.
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So are we a WS team with Gonzalez instead of Pena? No. So then we're stuck with a rented player and down three prospects on a team that didn't win a WS.
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No...not this coming year. A contender in the division with him? Yes. And I think if they would have given up quality prospects, they wouldn't have without an extension, so it wouldn't have been a rented player.
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I don't think I understand your logic. What does the quality of the prospects have to do with an extension?
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I think what he's saying is the Cubs wouldn't have given up highly rated prospects without an assurance (or at least plenty of confidence) that an extension would happen.
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Yep...no way they would have thrown all the gems at the Padres without an extension. That's my point. I agree with the initial point of not trading a bunch of valuable future pieces for a rental.
Well maybe 3 small market teams because the Pirates are eternally garbabge...since 1992 at least.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So are we a WS team with Gonzalez instead of Pena? No. So then we're stuck with a rented player and down three prospects on a team that didn't win a WS.
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No...not this coming year. A contender in the division with him? Yes. And I think if they would have given up quality prospects, they wouldn't have without an extension, so it wouldn't have been a rented player.
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I don't think I understand your logic. What does the quality of the prospects have to do with an extension?
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I think what he's saying is the Cubs wouldn't have given up highly rated prospects without an assurance (or at least plenty of confidence) that an extension would happen.
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Yep...no way they would have thrown all the gems at the Padres without an extension. That's my point. I agree with the initial point of not trading a bunch of valuable future pieces for a rental.
Dylan McKay is my hero