12-14-2010, 02:29 PM
<!--quoteo(post=123322:date=Dec 14 2010, 01:28 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Dec 14 2010, 01:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=123319:date=Dec 14 2010, 12:17 PM:name=willis)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (willis @ Dec 14 2010, 12:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=123314:date=Dec 14 2010, 11:53 AM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Dec 14 2010, 11:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=123311:date=Dec 14 2010, 11:19 AM:name=Coldneck)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Coldneck @ Dec 14 2010, 11:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=123307:date=Dec 14 2010, 12:12 PM:name=VanSlawAndCottoCheese)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (VanSlawAndCottoCheese @ Dec 14 2010, 12:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=123301:date=Dec 14 2010, 11:39 AM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Dec 14 2010, 11:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->By the time the Cubs are ready to compete again, Lee, Halladay and Oswalt will be past their primes. Yeah, it's frustrating to watch an already excellent team add *yet another* ace to their staff, but it won't affect the Cubs one way or the other.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Thank you.
Due to the burden from previous contracts, I have a hard time believing that the Cubs have the core needed to "go all out" to begin with. It sucks, but rather throwing good money after bad, I want to see the kind of moves that will help flip this team a year or two down the line. If the Cubs manage to compete this year, wonderful. However, even if they do, the team has all the long-term promise of the 1998 squad. Like that Sheehan quote explains, the Phils (and the Yanks, for that matter) started around a core of solid, young, homegrown talent. I'm prepared for a little foundering in order for the ball club to resist re-committing $oriano-$ized mistakes.
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Fuck yeah slaw. I see it the same way.
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People that don't see it that way scare me. Who are they?
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And this philosophy is 100% ok with me and most fans I would think. Begs the question then why waste $10 million on a sub .200 1B? This is where the anger comes from. As we all have said, tinkering will only make things worse. Go all in or blow it up and build. Instead they are taking the middle of the road path in an attempt to pull wool over our eyes.
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I don't have a problem with the Pena deal at all -- even at $10M. If we're out of it by the trade deadline, then try to deal him. The ballclub saves some cash and depending if Pena rebounds at all, maybe we get a decent prospect in return. If by some miracle we end up competing for the division, then my guess is that Pena will have had something to do with it.
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This. Plus its only a one year deal and won't effect 2012, when I think we can start building a winner.
Thank you.
Due to the burden from previous contracts, I have a hard time believing that the Cubs have the core needed to "go all out" to begin with. It sucks, but rather throwing good money after bad, I want to see the kind of moves that will help flip this team a year or two down the line. If the Cubs manage to compete this year, wonderful. However, even if they do, the team has all the long-term promise of the 1998 squad. Like that Sheehan quote explains, the Phils (and the Yanks, for that matter) started around a core of solid, young, homegrown talent. I'm prepared for a little foundering in order for the ball club to resist re-committing $oriano-$ized mistakes.
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Fuck yeah slaw. I see it the same way.
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People that don't see it that way scare me. Who are they?
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
And this philosophy is 100% ok with me and most fans I would think. Begs the question then why waste $10 million on a sub .200 1B? This is where the anger comes from. As we all have said, tinkering will only make things worse. Go all in or blow it up and build. Instead they are taking the middle of the road path in an attempt to pull wool over our eyes.
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I don't have a problem with the Pena deal at all -- even at $10M. If we're out of it by the trade deadline, then try to deal him. The ballclub saves some cash and depending if Pena rebounds at all, maybe we get a decent prospect in return. If by some miracle we end up competing for the division, then my guess is that Pena will have had something to do with it.
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This. Plus its only a one year deal and won't effect 2012, when I think we can start building a winner.