Zambrano

[Ace]

<!--quoteo(post=116208:date=Oct 5 2010, 07:00 AM:name=veryzer)-->QUOTE (veryzer @ Oct 5 2010, 07:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=116191:date=Oct 4 2010, 07:00 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Oct 4 2010, 07:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->So if the Cubs had moved Gorzelanny to the pen, it would have been a "demotion"? If a crappy starter is moved into a setup role and dominates, was he "demoted"? That's, of course, just silly. A demotion is when a guy sucks, and is bumped to the pen *because* of the suck - not because Ted Lilly returns from off-season shoulder surgery,

Look, guys, we agree that the outcome was the wrong move, so this is largely just semantics - but damnit, I'm sick of being at odds with you two. In every thread - it's you two, and me. Why can't we just get along?

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If Gorz gets moved from starter to middle relief, it's a demotion. Just because the name is different doesn't mean the situation is different. A demotion is a demotion.
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Ok, at least I now know what you mean. I disagree (like whoa), but at least now I get it.