10-04-2010, 01:50 PM
<!--quoteo(post=116054:date=Oct 4 2010, 11:11 AM:name=bz)-->QUOTE (bz @ Oct 4 2010, 11:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=116048:date=Oct 4 2010, 10:37 AM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ Oct 4 2010, 10:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Yeah, I'm pretty much not gonna bother with this one.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well shit, you win then. Continue to group all of the "Cubs fans" together and make generalizations about what they would think in a different universe. Cause that's really fair.
Is this not a plausible understaning of the chain of events:
Zambrano has a shitty opening day.
Zambrano has 3 less than stellar starts, not what you expect of an Ace but ok for a 3rd or 4th pitcher.
Zambrano appears to have lost his pitching ability in the eyes of the management by their own evaluation...some Cubs fans agree that Zambrano is on his way out of baseball.
The bullpen struggles.
There are one too many pitchers in the rotation because Ted Lilly is on the DL, but coming back.
Lou decides to move Zambrano to the bullpen because of the organizations evaluation of his performance this season to this point and what appears to be a trend based on the selected sample size. Some agree with this, some do not. Most people at SOI decree this to be a folly.
Zambrano does not pitch adequately in the bullpen. Zambrano is, in fact, a crazy person.
Zambrano returns to the rotation and pitches poorly. It seems to some that he is losing his shit altogether. Perhaps there is a trend.
Zambrano goes into exorcist mode on the team and is suspended indefinately. Some question whether his role this season may have had a lot to do with this breakdown. Some are sick of his shit altogether.
Zambrano comes back after anger management and minor league starts. He does not do well initially, but it appears he might be figuring things out.
He pitches a great game despite allowing what appears to be too many base runners. People here start questioning whether this would have happened in May if he would have been allowed to continue starting. Some disagree. Most are hopeful he continues to pitch well.
Zambrano stuns the world and continues to pitch well...in fact, pitches towards his career averages. Most here conclude that he was, in fact, treated improperly at the beginning of the season. One person does not.
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The only part of this that I have even come remotely close to arguing is the last point. I'd say more, but I'm still going through your last post, and my Venn diagram of what I am and am not allowed to say isn't complete yet.
If the entirety of your position is that Zambrano was treated unfairly, then fine, knock yourself out. If you are trying to say that Zambrano was treated unfairly, it was a stupid move, and it adversely affected the Cubs, then I have a problem with it.
(Please note, I'm only speaking to BZ, or PCB or whomever stole the account today. I wouldn't dream of lumping all Cub fans together with my nefarious generalizations).
Well shit, you win then. Continue to group all of the "Cubs fans" together and make generalizations about what they would think in a different universe. Cause that's really fair.
Is this not a plausible understaning of the chain of events:
Zambrano has a shitty opening day.
Zambrano has 3 less than stellar starts, not what you expect of an Ace but ok for a 3rd or 4th pitcher.
Zambrano appears to have lost his pitching ability in the eyes of the management by their own evaluation...some Cubs fans agree that Zambrano is on his way out of baseball.
The bullpen struggles.
There are one too many pitchers in the rotation because Ted Lilly is on the DL, but coming back.
Lou decides to move Zambrano to the bullpen because of the organizations evaluation of his performance this season to this point and what appears to be a trend based on the selected sample size. Some agree with this, some do not. Most people at SOI decree this to be a folly.
Zambrano does not pitch adequately in the bullpen. Zambrano is, in fact, a crazy person.
Zambrano returns to the rotation and pitches poorly. It seems to some that he is losing his shit altogether. Perhaps there is a trend.
Zambrano goes into exorcist mode on the team and is suspended indefinately. Some question whether his role this season may have had a lot to do with this breakdown. Some are sick of his shit altogether.
Zambrano comes back after anger management and minor league starts. He does not do well initially, but it appears he might be figuring things out.
He pitches a great game despite allowing what appears to be too many base runners. People here start questioning whether this would have happened in May if he would have been allowed to continue starting. Some disagree. Most are hopeful he continues to pitch well.
Zambrano stuns the world and continues to pitch well...in fact, pitches towards his career averages. Most here conclude that he was, in fact, treated improperly at the beginning of the season. One person does not.
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The only part of this that I have even come remotely close to arguing is the last point. I'd say more, but I'm still going through your last post, and my Venn diagram of what I am and am not allowed to say isn't complete yet.
If the entirety of your position is that Zambrano was treated unfairly, then fine, knock yourself out. If you are trying to say that Zambrano was treated unfairly, it was a stupid move, and it adversely affected the Cubs, then I have a problem with it.
(Please note, I'm only speaking to BZ, or PCB or whomever stole the account today. I wouldn't dream of lumping all Cub fans together with my nefarious generalizations).
I wish that I believed in Fate. I wish I didn't sleep so late. I used to be carried in the arms of cheerleaders.