Zambrano

[BT]

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<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <!--quotec-->If given the opportunity to pitch through his struggles, I feel pretty confident in saying that Z's numbers would be right where they should be at this point in the season -- and better than Silva's, Gorz's, Wells', and maybe Dempster's.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
This is what I said.

IF given the opportunity (which he wasn't given)...Z's numbers WOULD BE right where they should be at this point in the season...

I'm not saying what you're seeing now is the finished product. I'm saying that IF he were given the opportunity to pitch through his early season struggles (which is what pretty much every proven starting pitcher would be given the opportunity to do), his numbers would be pretty close to his career averages. Obviously, this isn't something I can prove because we can't rewind the season and try again.
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Based on what? As I've shown you, since coming back, and other than ERA, Zambrano is STILL pitching pretty badly. What gives you the idea that he would have been fine if he had just been left alone?