08-25-2010, 01:34 PM
<!--quoteo(post=112240:date=Aug 25 2010, 12:06 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Aug 25 2010, 12:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=112235:date=Aug 25 2010, 11:02 AM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ Aug 25 2010, 11:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=112206:date=Aug 25 2010, 05:48 AM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Aug 25 2010, 05:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->You know what? Zambrano might still be good.
Makes me wonder what kind of season he could have had if not for the absolutely retarded decision to put him in the bullpen.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
i knew this was coming.
any time Zambrano does anything bad this year it will be because of the way he was handled. Any time Zambrano does anything good, it will be because he is a good pitcher. He comes back from the suspension and he sucks, it's because they suspended him. He comes back from the suspension and he's good, it's DESPITE the suspension.
Management decision can only affect a pitcher in the negative sense. That's how it works I guess.
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None of Z's results (good or bad) from here on reflect on the wisdom (or lack thereof) of the decision. The decision had to be based on the pitchers' track records to that point. Zambrano had the best track record and he deserved the breathing room to right the ship. End of story. I think this has been made sufficiently clear. Zambrano is a veteran with a solid track record. Wells is in his second year. Silva came off the two worst seasons of any pitcher in history. Gorz has had one good season. It was a no-brainer, and yet the Cubs screwed it up. Total knee-jerk, desperate move.
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At the time, I supported the decision. I was wrong. At the time, management said, it was not about how Z was pitching, but that he was the BEST option for the pen. I bought that. After the suspension, Hendry said, that they looked at Z's last 50 starts and decided he did not deserve to be in the rotation. Very wrong.
1. A guy is one of the highest paid players on your team. Don't fuck with him. Too much money invested.
2. A guy has been a mainstay of your rotation for 7 years. Don't fuck with him. Show some respect.
3. A guy is at least borderline, possibly bat sit crazy. Don't fuck with him. Common sens.
A spur of the moment solution, to a problem, I can forgive them. The idea that they put thought into what turned out to be a horrible decision, pisses me off.
Makes me wonder what kind of season he could have had if not for the absolutely retarded decision to put him in the bullpen.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
i knew this was coming.
any time Zambrano does anything bad this year it will be because of the way he was handled. Any time Zambrano does anything good, it will be because he is a good pitcher. He comes back from the suspension and he sucks, it's because they suspended him. He comes back from the suspension and he's good, it's DESPITE the suspension.
Management decision can only affect a pitcher in the negative sense. That's how it works I guess.
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None of Z's results (good or bad) from here on reflect on the wisdom (or lack thereof) of the decision. The decision had to be based on the pitchers' track records to that point. Zambrano had the best track record and he deserved the breathing room to right the ship. End of story. I think this has been made sufficiently clear. Zambrano is a veteran with a solid track record. Wells is in his second year. Silva came off the two worst seasons of any pitcher in history. Gorz has had one good season. It was a no-brainer, and yet the Cubs screwed it up. Total knee-jerk, desperate move.
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At the time, I supported the decision. I was wrong. At the time, management said, it was not about how Z was pitching, but that he was the BEST option for the pen. I bought that. After the suspension, Hendry said, that they looked at Z's last 50 starts and decided he did not deserve to be in the rotation. Very wrong.
1. A guy is one of the highest paid players on your team. Don't fuck with him. Too much money invested.
2. A guy has been a mainstay of your rotation for 7 years. Don't fuck with him. Show some respect.
3. A guy is at least borderline, possibly bat sit crazy. Don't fuck with him. Common sens.
A spur of the moment solution, to a problem, I can forgive them. The idea that they put thought into what turned out to be a horrible decision, pisses me off.
I like you guys a lot.