07-28-2010, 09:16 AM
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->It wasn't a short sighted decision. I think my limit of attempts to explain this to you is seven, but Hendry specifically said the move was based on his last 50 starts, not his last 4.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well, as long as Hendry said that the move was based on his last 50 starts, it absolutely proves that the move wasn't short sighted. Thanks for finally clearing that up. I guess it took seven times for me to get it. You can't look at Silva and Gorz's last 50 starts -- only Zambrano's. The only starts that counted for Silva and Gorz was their first two of the 2010 season. Got it. Not short sighted. I finally get it, BT. You're a champ.
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->As a whole, there isn't one pitcher in the rotation who has been consistently bad<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Wells was pretty consistently bad for a pretty long stretch. Good thing for him he had a long track record of success and was able to pitch through his struggles.
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->Zambrano was not very good as a starter this year<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So, on April 21, we should make decisions only based on the beginning of the season up to that point. Completely ignore the rest of their career. If A-Rod is hitting .200 and Ramiro Pena is hitting .300 on April 21, you make A-Rod a pinch hitter and you put Pena at 3B. This is all starting to make sense to me!
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->Zambrano was, at best, less than impressive last year<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
If by "less than impressive," you mean "not an All-Star," then you've got me there. In this context, "less than impressive" means "better than Silva and Gorz's career averages, and a whole shitload better than their previous two seasons" to me.
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->Zambrano wasn't very good as a reliever this year
Zambrano wasn't very good coming back as a starter this year.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So...was the decision based on the above?
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->And according to you, it was borderline criminal negligence to take Zambrano out of the rotation.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm pretty sure I said the move was idiotic and short-sighted. I don't remember calling for Lou's arrest.
Well, as long as Hendry said that the move was based on his last 50 starts, it absolutely proves that the move wasn't short sighted. Thanks for finally clearing that up. I guess it took seven times for me to get it. You can't look at Silva and Gorz's last 50 starts -- only Zambrano's. The only starts that counted for Silva and Gorz was their first two of the 2010 season. Got it. Not short sighted. I finally get it, BT. You're a champ.
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->As a whole, there isn't one pitcher in the rotation who has been consistently bad<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Wells was pretty consistently bad for a pretty long stretch. Good thing for him he had a long track record of success and was able to pitch through his struggles.
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->Zambrano was not very good as a starter this year<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So, on April 21, we should make decisions only based on the beginning of the season up to that point. Completely ignore the rest of their career. If A-Rod is hitting .200 and Ramiro Pena is hitting .300 on April 21, you make A-Rod a pinch hitter and you put Pena at 3B. This is all starting to make sense to me!
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->Zambrano was, at best, less than impressive last year<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
If by "less than impressive," you mean "not an All-Star," then you've got me there. In this context, "less than impressive" means "better than Silva and Gorz's career averages, and a whole shitload better than their previous two seasons" to me.
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->Zambrano wasn't very good as a reliever this year
Zambrano wasn't very good coming back as a starter this year.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So...was the decision based on the above?
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->And according to you, it was borderline criminal negligence to take Zambrano out of the rotation.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm pretty sure I said the move was idiotic and short-sighted. I don't remember calling for Lou's arrest.