07-26-2010, 07:29 PM
<!--quoteo(post=108089:date=Jul 26 2010, 07:18 PM:name=Scarey)-->QUOTE (Scarey @ Jul 26 2010, 07:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=108082:date=Jul 26 2010, 05:14 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Jul 26 2010, 05:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=108065:date=Jul 26 2010, 04:55 PM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ Jul 26 2010, 04:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->If Lee waives his NTC, it's doubtful we would get much back for him. Also, and this might have been covered, I'm not entirely certain Lee would qualify as a type A free agent. If he is type B, there is no reason for the Cubs to even offer him arbitration, as he will be vastly overpaid even with a 20 percent cut in salary.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
He'll be a Type B, barring an insane finish to the season. If the Cubs offer arbitration, it's very likely he accepts - he'd no doubt get close to the $12.5 million he's making this year. Vets don't take paycuts in arbitration (and even if they do, it's at most 20 percent, as BT noted).
Edit to respond to Scarey: to be a Type A, a guy has to be in the top 20 percent at his position over the past two years. Take a look around baseball - to me, there's no way Lee is in the top 20 percent (i.e., top 6) at 1B over the past two years. Being in the top 40 percent (top 12) is even questionable.
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Isn't it the top 20% of all players that had the majority of their ABs at 1st? Meaning guys like Nady could qualify? I just didn't think it was as hard as that to qualify.
Also, do they go by stats when determining this? Which stats?
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As to the second question, it's the Elias Sports Bureau and they don't make the actual parts of the evaluation public (proprietary and such).
As to the first, good question. I think you're right, but I'm sure there's a minimum cut off (i.e., a dude with one MLB at bat in the past two years and he had it at first base is not going to be included in the denominator). And also, have the majority of Nady's at bats over the past two years really come at first? Nah.
He'll be a Type B, barring an insane finish to the season. If the Cubs offer arbitration, it's very likely he accepts - he'd no doubt get close to the $12.5 million he's making this year. Vets don't take paycuts in arbitration (and even if they do, it's at most 20 percent, as BT noted).
Edit to respond to Scarey: to be a Type A, a guy has to be in the top 20 percent at his position over the past two years. Take a look around baseball - to me, there's no way Lee is in the top 20 percent (i.e., top 6) at 1B over the past two years. Being in the top 40 percent (top 12) is even questionable.
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Isn't it the top 20% of all players that had the majority of their ABs at 1st? Meaning guys like Nady could qualify? I just didn't think it was as hard as that to qualify.
Also, do they go by stats when determining this? Which stats?
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As to the second question, it's the Elias Sports Bureau and they don't make the actual parts of the evaluation public (proprietary and such).
As to the first, good question. I think you're right, but I'm sure there's a minimum cut off (i.e., a dude with one MLB at bat in the past two years and he had it at first base is not going to be included in the denominator). And also, have the majority of Nady's at bats over the past two years really come at first? Nah.
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