07-22-2010, 10:56 AM
<!--quoteo(post=107196:date=Jul 22 2010, 10:43 AM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Jul 22 2010, 10:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=107169:date=Jul 21 2010, 10:57 PM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ Jul 21 2010, 10:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=107030:date=Jul 21 2010, 04:04 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Jul 21 2010, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=107028:date=Jul 21 2010, 03:59 PM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Jul 21 2010, 03:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I still think Lou and Hendry fucked Zambrano up. He's done enough over his career where he should've been allowed to work through some early season struggles. They knew he was crazy, why do something that's gonna make him crazier?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I couldn't agree more.
All you need to do is look about 8 miles south of Wrigley. Look how poorly Floyd started out the season -- just as bad as Zambrano. But he wasn't given a ridiculously short leash. Instead, they trusted that because his last two seasons were solid, he would eventually work out the kinks. It took him a while, but he did it and he's been their best starter for a while now. As much as I hate Ozzie, he didn't pull some reactionary bullshit and throw Floyd into the bullpen.
Given Z's resumé with the Cubs, he should have been given a much, much longer leash.
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Just wondering, is the fact that Lee sucks also Hendry and Lou's fault? And which guy should have been yanked from the rotation when Lilly came back, if it wasn't going to be Zambrano?
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Gorz or Wells should have been yanked from the rotation.
And no, Lee's shitty play isn't Hendry or Lou's fault. If they decided to move Lee into a pinch hitting role to improve the bench or make him a catcher to improve our defense behind the plate, then you could probably point a finger Hendry or Lou's direction.
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At the time the move seemed to make sense to me. The bullpen was in shambles, and the rotation had a glut of quality starters. Zambrano didn't look like he could keep it together. So in an attempt to get something out of him, why not see if he could just turn it up for an inning and get some outs. In retrospect it didn't work out. Zambrano continued to struggle and now we are out of it. But at the time, their were still hopes of salvaging the season. I think Lou made the right move, which was to try and make a move instead of just sitting back and waiting for Zambrano to quit killing his bullpen by lasting 3 innings.
I couldn't agree more.
All you need to do is look about 8 miles south of Wrigley. Look how poorly Floyd started out the season -- just as bad as Zambrano. But he wasn't given a ridiculously short leash. Instead, they trusted that because his last two seasons were solid, he would eventually work out the kinks. It took him a while, but he did it and he's been their best starter for a while now. As much as I hate Ozzie, he didn't pull some reactionary bullshit and throw Floyd into the bullpen.
Given Z's resumé with the Cubs, he should have been given a much, much longer leash.
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Just wondering, is the fact that Lee sucks also Hendry and Lou's fault? And which guy should have been yanked from the rotation when Lilly came back, if it wasn't going to be Zambrano?
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Gorz or Wells should have been yanked from the rotation.
And no, Lee's shitty play isn't Hendry or Lou's fault. If they decided to move Lee into a pinch hitting role to improve the bench or make him a catcher to improve our defense behind the plate, then you could probably point a finger Hendry or Lou's direction.
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At the time the move seemed to make sense to me. The bullpen was in shambles, and the rotation had a glut of quality starters. Zambrano didn't look like he could keep it together. So in an attempt to get something out of him, why not see if he could just turn it up for an inning and get some outs. In retrospect it didn't work out. Zambrano continued to struggle and now we are out of it. But at the time, their were still hopes of salvaging the season. I think Lou made the right move, which was to try and make a move instead of just sitting back and waiting for Zambrano to quit killing his bullpen by lasting 3 innings.