07-17-2010, 04:37 PM
<!--quoteo(post=105921:date=Jul 16 2010, 10:26 PM:name=BT)-->QUOTE (BT @ Jul 16 2010, 10:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Kabes, again, I love you, but man you really tee it up for me. Scarey has ably filled in for me as I strolled the Museum of Science and Industry with the kids today. I'm glad you realized eventually that I wasn't trying to claim there has never been a good free agent signing in history. But I have to question some of your most recent arguments. First of all
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OK, I wasn't aware we were allowed to use Fangraphs. Whenever I try to use them, folks around here get pretty angry. I think Butch once referred to it as "your precious Fangraphs" when arguing with me. But I am ecstatic if we are going to use it. And if we are going to use it, you have some problems.
Problem 1. So far, according to Fangraphs, Fukudome has earned every cent of his contract. That will change once 2010 is over, because Colvin is taking time from him. But if we are going by fangraphs, your initial premise is wrong.
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I know you didn't initially bring up Fangraphs, but the problem I have with their player values is that it doesn't seem to make much sense. In 2002 it says that Neifi Perez should have made $8.2, but he made $4.1 while sporting a glorious WAR of -3.2. How is that possible?
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <!--quotec-->But if you are saying that A-Rod or Pujols haven't given a solid return on the contracts they've signed, I'd say that you might want to take a look at FanGraphs.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
OK, I wasn't aware we were allowed to use Fangraphs. Whenever I try to use them, folks around here get pretty angry. I think Butch once referred to it as "your precious Fangraphs" when arguing with me. But I am ecstatic if we are going to use it. And if we are going to use it, you have some problems.
Problem 1. So far, according to Fangraphs, Fukudome has earned every cent of his contract. That will change once 2010 is over, because Colvin is taking time from him. But if we are going by fangraphs, your initial premise is wrong.
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I know you didn't initially bring up Fangraphs, but the problem I have with their player values is that it doesn't seem to make much sense. In 2002 it says that Neifi Perez should have made $8.2, but he made $4.1 while sporting a glorious WAR of -3.2. How is that possible?
If Angelo had picked McClellin, I would have been expecting to hear by training camp that kid has stage 4 cancer, is actually 5'2" 142 lbs, is a chick who played in a 7 - 0 defensive scheme who only rotated in on downs which were 3 and 34 yds + so is not expecting to play a down in the NFL until the sex change is complete and she puts on another 100 lbs. + but this is Emery's first pick so he'll get a pass with a bit of questioning. - 1060Ivy