Fire Lou

[veryzer]

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I don't understand why this upsets you so much. Why, if you believe the Cubs should get a new manager, do you have to 100% dump on the current one for every single thing he does?
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Why, if you believe the Cubs should get a new manager, do you have to 100% defend the current one every single time someone else dumps on him?
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I don't 100% defend him. Case in point, I agree with you on the Soto argument you guys are having with BT. I don't blindly defend him either. I speak my mind on what I think on each individual topic. If I hear someone saying Lou is not paying attention/senile/doesn't care/etc. then I will defend him on that because I think he is paying attention, is not senile, and does care. Not because I blindly defend him. Just because I disagree with you should not automatically make me the subject of your criticism.

Which brings me to my next defense. The way you guys are talking to BT is really smarmy and shitty. You're faulting him for the way he defends his arguments? The guy makes valid points. Even on points I disagree with him on (which, as hard as it is to believe, does in fact happen) I have to admit he makes a good case. Don't try to turn it into "you're actually wrong but you've convinced yourself you're right". That's just bullshit.
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Yeah, it's real shitty of me to say he's a convincing debater. What a dick I am.
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Right, because there was absolutely no sarcasm in anything you said. Right? This line really convinced me of that.

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Right?




Don't piss on me and tell me it's raining.
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Piss rain is still rain.

Anyway, in the end, all I'm really doing is complimenting BT. I don't give a flying fuck if you believe that or not.

The fact of the matter is that every time I'm convinced of something, BT presents an argument that has me questioning my own beliefs. That's a fact. If you think that's insulting, that's your prerogative, but i really don't think BT needs you to stand up for him. He does pretty well on his own.

You, on the other, seem to convince me that my beliefs are right on the money. Maybe therein lies the problem?
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If you are sincere in what you say, I apologize.

But look at it from my perspective. You've called BT "Cubs management" and such things and have argued HEAVILY against many of his points. Then you go overboard saying how he's so convincing and you can't win an argument with him. You go as far to say that he's "convinced you to keep Hendry and Lou" (I've seen that song and dance and you are NOT going to convince me that last one is sincere. It's not just me, nobody is going to beleive that).

So, from my perspective, what conclusion do you think I'm going to jump to based on the above statements? Don't get insulted if I insinuate something about you that seems to be the most obvious conclusion.

No, BT does not need me to stand up for him. But I know what it's like to be ganged up on in here. It's not fun, so I'll offer my support and interject with my opinion... because, you know, giving opinions is a huge reason we post here.
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Scarey, it doesn't matter if I'm being sarcastic or smarmy. I am both. But in the end, all I'm doing is commenting on his skills. I'm not calling him a dumbass or a retard. All I'm saying is that no matter how much I feel I'm right, BT has an uncanny ability to blow me (and everyone else) out of the water. He's good.

Yes, I'm being sarcastic. Yes I'm being smarmy. Yes, I'm being disingenuous when I say I'm convinced that Hendry and Lou should stay. You are absolutely right. But my sarcasm, smarminess, and disingenousness is all rooted in the fact that it's impossible to win an argument with him.

To me, it's along the same lines as ripping on phan because he fucks a lot of hot chicks. Is that really such a bad thing?

So lighten up Scarey. And defend the people who need defending. BT doesn't need your help. Lou and Hendry do though, because they suck.